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TW56
08-17-2010, 05:36 PM
Received two M14 stocks today after ordering the first day they were on the E-store. Both were wrapped with the vapor paper and in plastic with a Rock Island date of 2008 on a Army label with nomenclature. Small 4 "slit though the outer plastic and vapor paper

Both are walnut stocks with the Defense Acceptance stamp visible but each stock had been sanded sometime in the past. The metal is in very good condition.

No cracks and I'm quite happy for the 35.00 per stock price.

deputy85
08-17-2010, 05:42 PM
Did they have all the metal, buttplate?

beardog
08-17-2010, 06:05 PM
They have all the metal. They have been arsenal refurbished (sanded, metal repark). DOD stamp there. I would say they are very very good for the price. Individually boxed, sealed in plastic in the paper as stated above. May have to order another. These seem like another good buy. Now only if there were an abundance of M14's.

aj98
08-17-2010, 08:50 PM
ad copy in estore mentions bedding material.
any evidence of same on your stocks?

mkrad
08-17-2010, 09:43 PM
Clean birch, no bedding with mine, as said before, the metal is good, reparked in gray.

TW56
08-18-2010, 11:30 AM
No bedding material on either of my two stocks, stocks have complete metal.

beardog
08-18-2010, 11:44 AM
None on mine either. The metal alone is worth what CMP is charging. The wood was sanded, but my stocks sure are nice.

ANGRY POSSUM
08-22-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm thinking of getting 1 or 2. Can you guys post some pics of the stocks you received please?

Spinner55
08-22-2010, 04:14 PM
Hello,

This came 2 weeks ago. Had a small DOD Eagle (light) and a rebuild circle P. Came wrapped in plastic and vapor paper. Think it's a birch with stain? Very nice looking, thinking of getting another one. Take care Spin


http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/spinner55/M14%20Stock/m14stock01.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/spinner55/M14%20Stock/m14stock02.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/spinner55/M14%20Stock/m14stock03.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/spinner55/M14%20Stock/m14stock04.jpg

edlmann
08-23-2010, 10:44 AM
Think it's a birch with stain?

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/spinner55/M14%20Stock/m14stock01.jpg

Definitely birch.

[email protected]#$. Looks like I have to order one now.

ETA: Couldn't stand it and ordered two. Will have to go receiver shopping now . . .

wrwindsor
08-23-2010, 02:15 PM
I ordered three so that I could practice my wood restoration skills.

What arrived were two walnut and one birch, all basically like the one posted above by Spinner55 in terms of condition.

ANGRY POSSUM
08-23-2010, 02:23 PM
Will my dad's standard Loaded M1A fit well in these stocks?

Trooper82
08-23-2010, 02:28 PM
Is the visual difference between walnut and birch very obvious? I got two stocks, only opened one. I initially thought "walnut" but now I'm not sure.

wrwindsor
08-23-2010, 02:41 PM
Birch typically has "blonde roots" under the sanding, whereas walnut is darker. It may be difficult to spot the difference if you're just looking at one, but it's obvious when they're next to each other.

edlmann
08-23-2010, 04:16 PM
Is the visual difference between walnut and birch very obvious? I got two stocks, only opened one. I initially thought "walnut" but now I'm not sure.

pics!

Spinner55
08-23-2010, 09:58 PM
Well I ordered a 'backup' stock yesterday. Thought it was Birch as it looked stained and had blond roots. Asked to make sure I was not wrong.

Now today while out of town, get cell call about the linked ammo. So added 2 cans on another order. Now waiting to see what the parts kit looks like.
Take care Spin

Jon
08-24-2010, 01:05 AM
Well, I got my M14 stock today and it didn't come in a bag. I think it was in one at one time because it has razor marks on the side of it. I was hoping for walnut, got birch. Was hoping for any semblance of DAS or proof stamp, both were completely sanded off. Was hoping my low numbered M1A action would just drop in, the stock has been glass bedded so I'll have to redo that. The ferrule has been spray painted flat gray(over spray on wood), not re parked. Is it what I hoped for? No. Is it what I paid for? Yes. Am I satisfied? Hell yes! I'm going to refinish it and set it up for use with a scope. I never could bring myself to use those brass screws for the leather cheek piece on my primary stocks.That in and of itself is well worth the $35 to me. It's going to be a fun project that will make the folks in my neck of the woods happy because it will keep me off the streets for a little while.
jon

Rakin
08-31-2010, 07:58 PM
Well, I got my M14 stock today and it didn't come in a bag. I think it was in one at one time because it has razor marks on the side of it. I was hoping for walnut, got birch. Was hoping for any semblance of DAS or proof stamp, both were completely sanded off. Was hoping my low numbered M1A action would just drop in, the stock has been glass bedded so I'll have to redo that. The ferrule has been spray painted flat gray(over spray on wood), not re parked. Is it what I hoped for? No. Is it what I paid for? Yes. Am I satisfied? Hell yes! I'm going to refinish it and set it up for use with a scope. I never could bring myself to use those brass screws for the leather cheek piece on my primary stocks.That in and of itself is well worth the $35 to me. It's going to be a fun project that will make the folks in my neck of the woods happy because it will keep me off the streets for a little while.
jon

Sounds like I received something very similar to Jon. Didn't come in bag or paper. No bedding, birch (I think), can see the proof, but DAS stamp looks to be completely sanded off. A little residue of something clear and sticky (might be able to see it in the photos as something shinny towards the tail of the stock). My ferrule looks painted with a lot of over spray on the inside of the stock. I speculate that the ferrule was painted because it could not be removed due to the crimp on both sides of the ferrule to hold it to the stock. Honestly, the ferrule is the only thing that not thrilled with.

Searching thru the forum and photos of stocks received looks like this ferrule crimp seems to be very common. Size varies and some had large dimples instead. What do you guys think the chances of pulling the ferrule without damaging the wood are? Looks like a new ferrule is not to hard to find

http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af103/sscottrc/Picture239.jpg
http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af103/sscottrc/Picture242.jpg

http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af103/sscottrc/Picture238.jpg

I still like what I recieved. Thanks CMP :GS:
Rakin

PerryJeff
09-01-2010, 09:59 AM
I recieved two stocks last night walnut rough sanded. Metal is all new parkerized. I have bedding material on the mag well metal. Both have P in circle proof in front of handguard. One has eagle in box with stars above on left side. Well worth the money +++

ANGRY POSSUM
09-01-2010, 12:13 PM
I recieved two stocks last night walnut rough sanded. Metal is all new parkerized. I have bedding material on the mag well metal. Both have P in circle proof in front of handguard. One has eagle in box with stars above on left side. Well worth the money +++


Pics Please!!!!

hammonje
09-01-2010, 12:32 PM
Mine were all birch!!!!! Ugly stocks. I guess it was worth the $$$$ for the stock metal. I was hoping at least one of the five would have been walnut and had the DAS and P proof. Nope...all ugly birch!!!!!!

wrwindsor
09-01-2010, 01:07 PM
Out of six, three were birch and three were walnut. One of the birch ones is much thicker and has no USGI stamps anywhere on it.

Another one had a boxed-P stamp instead of a circled-P or naked-P.

Rakin
09-01-2010, 02:19 PM
Anyone have any ideas on getting the front ferrule off the stock without damnaging the wood? (see post bottom picture in post #18 of this thread)

Great slim stock.... except for ugly painted, crimped front ferrule.


Rakin

Spinner55
09-01-2010, 06:19 PM
Hello,
My second 'birch' stock came yesterday. Same condition as the other one came in a plastic bag minus the paper. The P is double struck, a circle P and a box P. I'd love to 'talk' to the person that sanded against the grain. Spent hours with steel wool (00) trying to get the marks out. After 4 hrs of using the SW and only getting very little done. I ended up having to use 440 or 600+ sand paper to get the marks out. Then going over it again with the steel wool. Still working on the first stock. I'll post pictures some year after getting it done. It's not going very fast...that's why the year.
Take care
Spin

phil conrad
09-02-2010, 08:40 AM
I received mine yesterday. I think it is birch. I guess I got what I paid for. It looks like it was sanded with 36 grit and has a long scratch. Maybe some one opened a bag it was in with a razor blade. I will not be ordering any more. Oh well you win some and you get what you pay for some ;)

Short Round
09-02-2010, 06:59 PM
Mine were birch too. I got two, both had epoxy for clamping pressure.

One was yellow colored and had some old dark dings. Very light remnant of a DAS. Clear P proof. Ferrule had punched ferrule crimps.

Second was sanded within an inch of it's life. No proof mark remaing. Red in color.

I see nothing that will come of these for eye appeal but sometimes birch will suprise you when you smooth it out. I know have 3 spare stocks, one big walnut from Fred's who failed to send me the other stock I paid for and won't return my calls, and these 2 cmp birch stocks.

ANGRY POSSUM
09-02-2010, 11:23 PM
So overall, for you guys who bought these are they worth it? My dad just bought an M1A loaded with a synthetic stock and asked me to get him one. I ordered two today hoping that one would be nice. Probably pointless, but I requested walnut stocks. Do you have to do any work to these stocks besides on the finish or can we just drop his M1A in?

wrwindsor
09-02-2010, 11:44 PM
They look to be pretty much ready to go.

WIN 342
09-03-2010, 09:02 AM
For $35 w/metal you cant beat it.

Spinner55
09-03-2010, 09:39 AM
Hello AP and the group,

Yes - overall very happy with both of them. No major problems like 'cracks' / rust or pieces missing. Been 'cleaning' the stain off the stock. Showing some nice wood grain. Been using the Steel wood to removing the across the grain sanding marks and steamed out a couple of the dents. I'm going to replace the synthetic M1A stock on my 'loaded' rifle. Wished I had some $$$ laying around to buy the parts kit. Been a costly month for appliances around the house: washer died and now the stove control / timer board just died.

I really didn't mine getting birch stocks. Using the Janka hardness test list:
Yellow Birch i: 1260
Black Walnut: 1010 (North American)

From the Marlin Owners forum: Birch has a finer grain than walnut which accounts for the higher density. For strength, Birch is about 8% stronger than Walnut in compression applied parallel to the grain, Walnut is 4% stronger than Birch in compression applied perpendicular to the grain, and Birch is 37% stronger than Walnut in resistance to shearing.
What this means is that a Birch stock is less likely to break if dropped, but will show dents and scratches more easily. A Birch stock will be less likely to split.
NOTE: It is pretty relative though. We are talking compressive strengths parallel to the grain on the order of 7,580 psi (for Walnut) to 8,170 psi (for Birch), perpendicular to the grain on the order of 970 psi (for Birch) to 1,010 psi (for Walnut), and shear strengths from 1,370 psi (for Walnut) to 1,880 psi (for Birch).

Take care Spin

wrwindsor
09-03-2010, 02:15 PM
Some of mine are pinned, both Walnut and Birch.

Mack
09-03-2010, 08:29 PM
My $35.00 M14 stock arrived today and I couldn't be happier. It arrived wrapped up in brown kraft paper and enclosed in a sealed poly bag within the cardboard shipping container. Packing slip attached to poly bag indicates "Packaged at Rock Island Arsenal, Apr 2008, cure date: 4/14/08."

Imagin my happy surprise when packaging was removed and a very, very nice walnut stock was viewed. The stock is by no means "new" but, has that factory re-finished look. No dings, gouges, scratches, etc. Has faint DAS cartouche in wrist area and circle P stamp on pistol grip. Metal looks to be either new or re-Parked. Hinged buttplate snaps smartly in place. No glass bedding material present. Stock and metal is in excellent condition.

All and all, I can honestly say this is the best $35.00 deal I've had in a long time. CMP did me good on this one.

oodnoodn
09-06-2010, 08:17 AM
I was at the South store last Friday & picked out a walnut stock. The way the stocks are packaged you have to completely unbox/unpack/unwrap the stock to tell whether it's birch or walnut. Undoing/redoing milspec level A packaging is kinda time consuming, so don't be surprised if your sticky requests aren't honored.

While I was waiting for my purchase to process Friday, I helped one of the CMP guys unpack some stocks to restock the store shelf. So to you guys that walked into the South store Saturday morning & found shelf stocks ready for cherry-picking, you're welcome. :D

oodnoodn
09-06-2010, 08:21 AM
Here are a couple pics of my walnut stock. As received:
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/oodn-oodn/m14stock3.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/oodn-oodn/m14stock2.jpg

oodnoodn
09-06-2010, 08:24 AM
After cleaning/sanding, & a couple coats of RLO:
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/oodn-oodn/m14stock4.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/oodn-oodn/m14stock1.jpg

Craftsman
09-06-2010, 09:05 AM
After cleaning/sanding, & a couple coats of RLO:
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/oodn-oodn/m14stock4.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn72/oodn-oodn/m14stock1.jpg

Very nice looking stock!

PerryJeff
09-07-2010, 01:00 PM
Ok I hop pic's post I have some bedding material in mag well I tried to focus on
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w110/Jamaica1a/m14%20stocks/?action=view&current=stocksm14.jpg
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w110/Jamaica1a/m14%20stocks/?action=view&current=stocksm14.jpg#!oZZ2QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2 Fs174.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw110%2FJamaica1a% 2Fm14%2520stocks%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dst ockexpoxy.jpg%26
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I recieved two stocks last night walnut rough sanded. Metal is all new parkerized. I have bedding material on the mag well metal. Both have P in circle proof in front of handguard. One has eagle in box with stars above on left side. Well worth the money +++

PerryJeff
09-07-2010, 01:02 PM
couple more
http://s174.photobucket.com/albums/w110/Jamaica1a/m14%20stocks/?action=view&current=stocksm14.jpg#!oZZ5QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2 Fs174.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw110%2FJamaica1a% 2Fm14%2520stocks%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3Dst ockbedding2.jpg%26
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these pics go with the discription from bottom of page 2 of this thread.

duggaboy
09-07-2010, 05:38 PM
both that i received today are super, just nicely sanded, not bedded, and all metal perfect. I am working on the walnut one of the two now, just had to say thanks to CMP, the best money I think I have spent in a long time. I was wondering, are the stocks that come with the M14 parts sets about the same as these? :rolleyes:

ksuguy
09-07-2010, 05:52 PM
Got mine today, it's spectacular. I'm not an expert on wood, but I think it is walnut since it looks like the stocks on my old Garands.

It came in the wrapper and is practically brand new. Metal is perfect, and the wood is also almost totally perfect except for one tiny dent. Looks like the thing came straight from the factory.

Great deal for $35. I mainly just ordered one so I'd have a beater stock for my M1A and wouldn't have to worry about messing up the nice one. Now I have two nice ones!

nunya80
09-08-2010, 03:43 PM
Got two birch stocks. Great shape. One heavy with nice tiger striping. The other is just muddy birch. Both heavily sanded with VG metal. Great winter projects. Pretty good deal for $35 apiece.

ANGRY POSSUM
09-08-2010, 06:12 PM
Got two birch stocks. Great shape. One heavy with nice tiger striping. The other is just muddy birch. Both heavily sanded with VG metal. Great winter projects. Pretty good deal for $35 apiece.

How about a picture....all these descriptions don't mean much without pictures to give people an idea on what to expect.

Reaper6
09-08-2010, 09:02 PM
Received my stock today. It came in wrapped in vapor barrier paper and sealed in a plastic bag. Bag was marked Rock Island Arsenal 2008. The stock was sanded and still showed nicks and dings, it is also bedded on the underside. It’s nothing to brag about, but at $35 it wasn’t a bad deal. Here’s the as received pics, I’ll clean it up tonight and see if I can make it more presentable.

http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad189/superfast88/CMP%20Stock/DSC01276.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad189/superfast88/CMP%20Stock/DSC01279.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/ad189/superfast88/CMP%20Stock/DSC01280.jpg

Mack
09-08-2010, 10:58 PM
Hey Reaper....
Like your's, my stock was heavily sanded on the left side too. Other than that it's in great shape and the metal parts (including butt plate) are in like new condition. I'm real happy with the stock that I got.

ANGRY POSSUM
09-08-2010, 11:40 PM
I ordered two and I'm hoping that at least one comes in the condition that reaper1 recieved. I requested walnut for both. I figure if I get one in at least the condition as yours I can refinish it myself and make a nice wood stock to replace my synthetic.

ric
09-22-2010, 12:03 PM
Made a trip to the south store today looking for an M14 walnut stock. About 6-8 in the rack, but all of them birch. One in particular had a thin grip and got my attention, even had a decent DOD and P in circle. Saw a pin at the last minute so declined. As I was standing at the rack, a staff member began to replenish with just a couple of stocks, both walnut. The one I picked had a very clear and deep DOD with the same condition circle P. This stock only had a couple of handling dents and I suspect was probably only removed from a rifle that was scrapped. Near perfect condition! Happy I made the 4 hour roundtrip today.

MountainScout
09-22-2010, 06:18 PM
I have received two stocks, both walnut. One was very nice, DOD intact, butt plate and ferrule in great shape and looking reparked. The other had the no DOD and a pin behind the sling swivel but still a nice piece of wood. Both had a minor amount of bedding material at the trigger group area. I'll post some pictures when I figure out where the camera is at.

CadillacMike
09-22-2010, 09:31 PM
How do you tell birch from walnut???

wrwindsor
09-22-2010, 10:25 PM
Birch looks like a blonde (or at least blonde roots under the dye), whereas walnut looks like a brunette all the way through.

ANGRY POSSUM
09-22-2010, 10:29 PM
I think both mine that came are birch. Are these stained or just coated with Tung Oil? I plan on stripping them and cleaning them up.

Craftsman
09-23-2010, 12:28 PM
I think both mine that came are birch. Are these stained or just coated with Tung Oil? I plan on stripping them and cleaning them up.

As you said in your earlier post, Mr. A P: "How about a picture....all these descriptions don't mean much without pictures to give people an idea on what to expect." ;)

Icebergie
09-24-2010, 09:26 PM
Mine came in and it was simply junk. Sanded birch w/ dings, no proofs, pinned repairs & poorly applied bedding compound. This is my 1st bad experience w/ a CMP product; my SG Garands, Daisy 853, & Rusty Kimber were all scores. I guess since it has a USGI butt plate (grey parked so it will not match a M1A), & it only cost me pizza night money ($35 + shipping), all is not lost. Up to the attic w/ it until & can shift it off on someone.....lol. Very expensive fire wood!

ANGRY POSSUM
09-24-2010, 09:44 PM
my 2 came in. both birch, both crap. 1 no markings, 1 with a faint proof mark "P". Oh well....hopefully I can clean them up and make something outta them.

CadillacMike
10-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Duggaboy, the stocks with the parts kits will likely show wear as they are basically the stock on an in service rifle.

I like the separate stock i got. the one with the parts kit, got a large piece of wood split off by the oprod, CMP is sending me a replacement, i expect that will be just fine (but I am expecting to have more wear than one of the RIA refurbished stocks).

Icebergie
10-12-2010, 07:47 PM
I shifted mine off today for $40 to a guy that bought it put it on a Norinco M14.


Mine came in and it was simply junk. Sanded birch w/ dings, no proofs, pinned repairs & poorly applied bedding compound. This is my 1st bad experience w/ a CMP product; my SG Garands, Daisy 853, & Rusty Kimber were all scores. I guess since it has a USGI butt plate (grey parked so it will not match a M1A), & it only cost me pizza night money ($35 + shipping), all is not lost. Up to the attic w/ it until & can shift it off on someone.....lol. Very expensive fire wood!

starjammir
10-19-2010, 10:02 AM
I guess mine showed up at my parents house today. Dad said it is walnut and looks VERY nice. As soon as I get it, I'll post some pics.

vans
10-19-2010, 07:24 PM
Duggaboy, the stocks with the parts kits will likely show wear as they are basically the stock on an in service rifle.

I like the separate stock i got. the one with the parts kit, got a large piece of wood split off by the oprod, CMP is sending me a replacement, i expect that will be just fine (but I am expecting to have more wear than one of the RIA refurbished stocks).

Hate to say it but the stock in my parts kit was pretty dang nice. Was very dry and dusty, looked like it had been in storage for a long long time. No dents, cracks, or other abuse.

Gave it a couple coats of oil but it's got some blotchy varnish on it. Will probably need to strip it and hit it again.

CGBTL
10-20-2010, 01:38 PM
My parts kit came in yesterday. All of the marked parts are marked H-R, H&R or HRA. Looks like I received all Harrington & Richardson parts. Metal finish and condition is very good. The only issue I had was the stock. It is walnut but is split for about 10" from the tip down the senter of the barrel channel. It also has a large chunk missing from the receiver inlet area. I e-mailed customer service.
CGBTL