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beefyz
08-22-2010, 09:12 PM
anyone have any luck or favorite load using this powder with 147-155gr projectiles. i know it is a favorite with a 168gr match. hornady does not list it in their garand section for the 150s and i'm doubtful about the listings for it over 20 yrs old. reason i ask is that 4064 is readily available in quantity/price by me and would like to use more of it if i could. thanks

dgrecon
08-22-2010, 10:36 PM
I have and do load various (.308 dia.)150 grain bullets over 45.0 grains of IMR4064.

I shoot this load through both my M1903A3 and my M1 Garand with consistantly repeatable and reproducable results.

I have also loaded this recipe for my K31 and Krag with similar results.

David

musketjon
08-23-2010, 12:03 AM
47.0 grs of IMR4064 with your bullets will be good, accurate loads and will not damage an M1.
Jon

Ericc
08-23-2010, 03:05 AM
IMR4064 is sort of interesting with regards to gas cylinder pressures. With 155gr bullets It peaks gas cylinder pressure down towards the low end of the scale somewhere around 45 to 46gr.

Eric

mto7464
08-23-2010, 06:34 AM
great powder. one of my favs.

USSR
08-23-2010, 06:58 AM
Great powder, but not powder measure friendly.

Don

hematite
08-23-2010, 07:09 AM
I understand that 48gr of 4064 is an M1 accuracy load with 145-150 gr bullets. The NRA book on the M1 has suggested loads of 50gr with light cases and 48.5 gr with military and heavy commercial (Rem) cases with standard primers for 145-150 gr bullets to reproduce military standard velocity loads. I can tell you that after trying 48 gr IMR4064 behind 145 gr BT military bullets I am doing no further experimentation.

mcpo
08-23-2010, 09:07 AM
I understand that 48gr of 4064 is an M1 accuracy load with 145-150 gr bullets. The NRA book on the M1 has suggested loads of 50gr with light cases and 48.5 gr with military and heavy commercial (Rem) cases with standard primers for 145-150 gr bullets to reproduce military standard velocity loads. I can tell you that after trying 48 gr IMR4064 behind 145 gr BT military bullets I am doing no further experimentation.

Anyone loading IMR-4064, CCI-34 and Hornady 168 Gr match bullet into the HXP brass? If so, What's your best-performing load of the 4064? TIA

beefyz
08-23-2010, 03:15 PM
Anyone loading IMR-4064, CCI-34 and Hornady 168 Gr match bullet into the HXP brass? If so, What's your best-performing load of the 4064? TIA


only difference for me from yours above is that i'm using LC brass. hornady load of 45.2 @ 2500fps has been good enough for me.

baja84
08-23-2010, 04:20 PM
46 gr. 4064 is what I've loaded for some time . Works great!

hematite
08-23-2010, 05:55 PM
Anyone loading IMR-4064, CCI-34 and Hornady 168 Gr match bullet into the HXP brass? If so, What's your best-performing load of the 4064? TIA

I've also had very good results with 46 gr. IMR4064 with the 168 gr Sierra bullet in LC cases. :)

50cal
08-24-2010, 08:12 PM
I load 50.9 gr of 4064 in a Fed case and Win primmer and 150 gr Hornady FMJ and it is a tack driver in most of my M1s does not seem to hurt anything on the rifle.:)

Em_one
08-30-2010, 11:09 PM
I'm loading 48gr of IMR 4064 behind 150-155gr bullets for the M1 and O3 in Remington and Federal cases which should give approximately 2700fps. This was the first powder I tried in my .30 caliber rifles. I've had no problem finding accurate loads with it and thus have had no reason to try any other propellants.

Since Hornady 7th does not list IMR 4064 under the 150-155 table for the M1 GARAND specific section, I simply went by "standard" .30'06 data. IMR 4064 is known to be "Garand friendly" and M2 Ball spec is approximately 2800fps at the muzzle which would take 49.8gr to achieve according to Page 474 of Hornady 7th. Stay under that amount (which in itself is far from the list max for rifles that aren't gas operated or can regulate port-pressure) and you should be safe. It also corresponds with previously published Garand data so I see no reason not to go by "standard" .30'06 data in this case. The propellant is OK for the M1 and staying under mil-spec velocity for the given bullet weight shouldn't create undue stress on the rifle.

I haven't loaded any 150-155gr bullet in military cases but as far as 168gr bullets, off the top of my head my 168gr bullet HXP brass load is 46gr of IMR 4064 and my LC brass 168gr bullet load is 45gr IMR 4064 versus 47gr of IMR 4064 for a 168gr bullet in Remington commercial brass.

jhud
09-30-2010, 11:06 AM
Great powder, but not powder measure friendly.

Don

I use a cheapass Lee powder measure device for stick powders.
It is right on the bulls eye everytime.
Ball powder does not meter well in it.

Hornady's dispenser is the opposite. It meters ball powder without flaw everytime. Stick powders do not work well in it.

I use 47.8 gr IMR 4064 with a 150gr m2 bullet.
Every HXP case trimmed to exactly 2.484, with bullets set to cannnelure being barely visable, crimped with a LFCD, and primed with CCI LR's
I forget how and why I stuck to 47.8.
It was a long time ago and I tested it extensively


I choose 4064 over 4895 because it leaves less airspace in the case.

lapriester
09-30-2010, 12:08 PM
The most accurate load I have loaded for my Garands and my Remington M1903 so far is 46.5gr IMR 4064, Nosler 155gr Custom Competition HPBT bullets, CCI200 primer, HXP brass, 3.30" OAL, no crimp. I shot a 286 4X with that load with the M1903 in the one match I shot it in and a 275 5X (one flyer) with it in my Garand, Both way better with much improved groups than previous scores with my previous match load. I don't believe it was just because I had a couple of good days. Those were the last 2 matches I shot and the first with that particular load.

I did observe that the 4064 tends to soot up the neck of the cases more than other powders I've used but that is fine considering the accuracy. An hour more in the tumbler cleans em' up.

Larry

beefyz
09-30-2010, 08:49 PM
thanks guys for the info
and larry...by the way...remember awhile back i though i was having some trouble with the trigger from the m1.....finally got it checked out. ng. the smith swapped out another assembly and instantly i went from 5 1/2"groups to 3" groups. i still think i can do better.
z

lapriester
10-06-2010, 03:33 PM
thanks guys for the info
and larry...by the way...remember awhile back i though i was having some trouble with the trigger from the m1.....finally got it checked out. ng. the smith swapped out another assembly and instantly i went from 5 1/2"groups to 3" groups. i still think i can do better.
z

Did you get my PM.

Larry