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jpickar
11-28-2010, 09:47 PM
This is my father-in-laws helmet he wore in WWII while in Europe. He was in the 765th Railway Battalion. You can see the same number in the helmet and the liner. He put his name in the liner and helmet as you and see. The liner has a chin strap as well as the helmet. I tried to show pics of everything.

What can you tell me about this helmet and approx. value as that what it will be insured for. This will not be for sale as it is family history.

I appricate any and all replies on what this is. Thanks, John

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture015-1.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture014.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture013.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture012.jpg

jpickar
11-28-2010, 09:48 PM
More pics

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture011.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture010.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture009.jpg

OK I fixed the pics.

Thanks, John

Rondog
11-29-2010, 02:58 AM
Oh man, hard to say. WWII USGI helmets of any condition are bringing high prices, but one with a family history to it, with the original liner, who knows. My WAG would be $500 minimum, but I could be way high, or way low. That is WWII, right? I can see it's not fixed bails, but I can't tell if it's a front-seam.

CharlieEcho
11-29-2010, 04:56 AM
Well we know it's not fixed bale, but it is front seam and an late liner. You should be able to find some lettering around the outer edge of the helmet on the inside. The liner should have some markings in the inner crown. One of your photo's will not open in your second post. Looks like a very nice old helmet. There is a site that answers questions on the markings. But, I don't have it at the moment.

http://www.m-1helmet.com/Home.html /click on the liners and they flip over.

edlmann
11-29-2010, 09:58 AM
More pics

http://i253.phothttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture010.jpgobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture011.jpg

John

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh54/jpickar/Picture011.jpg

Orlando
11-29-2010, 10:13 AM
Real world value maybe $150.00 -$200.00
Insurance value I would atleast double it

jpickar
11-29-2010, 10:26 AM
Hey thanks for the input. From the website I found out it is a front seam like already stated and has a "331A" on the inside of the helmet, no other markings. The chin strap is a #7 with steekl buckle and raised bars.

The liner is a Westinghouse, marked with a W over a oval mark inside a circle, with cotton webbing.

Any more info is appricated, John

Rondog
11-29-2010, 12:21 PM
Value is climbing every day.

Robert C. Lovell
11-29-2010, 02:25 PM
The numbers have nothing to do with the helmet and liner. They are his identification. It is made up of the last letter of your last name and the last 4 numbers of your army serial number. For example: Mine is L1637.

jpickar
11-29-2010, 05:38 PM
Well that makes sense on the helmet painted numbers. No doubt that this is his now, but there was his name put elsewhere on the helmet and liner.

John

usmc1168
11-29-2010, 07:07 PM
This should be a McCord Radiator Steel Shell. The 331A is a heat lot number. I can't find my info right now to give you an approximate date range. Check to make sure there isn't an S below the 331A. If there is an S then it was made by Schlueter Manufacturing.

usmc1168
11-29-2010, 07:11 PM
I think the steel was manufactured October 1943 due to the swivel bales and front seam.

usmc1168
11-29-2010, 07:34 PM
http://www.jmurrayinc1944.com/ is an excellant site for parts and information.

jpickar
11-29-2010, 07:57 PM
I did some rubbing of crude on the brim of the helmet and there is a tall elongated S right on the curve of the brim below the 331A. So it is a Schlueter manf.