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captain-03
12-03-2010, 02:44 PM
In reading a couple threads here, I decided to take a look at some of the bayos in my collection (stored in boxes) and see if there were much differences in the way they were cut down ... started with some WTs (top box) and found 5 different varents:

From top to bottom - #1 & #2 there is no indication on the bayo on what manufacture actually did the modification. #3 was modified by AFH. #4 modified by UFH. #5 unknown

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3569.jpg

Of Course #1 is my favorite modification -- looks like some worker loved his work -- I do not think it is a GI modification becasue the bayo has been reparked and black grips added.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3565.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3567.jpg

Going to look at some other manufactures tonight and see if there is a pattern.

Craftsman
12-03-2010, 03:17 PM
In reading a couple threads here, I decided to take a look at some of the bayos in my collection (stored in boxes) and see if there were much differences in the way they were cut down ... started with some WTs (top box) and found 5 different varents:

From top to bottom - #1 & #2 there is no indication on the bayo on what manufacture actually did the modification. #3 was modified by AFH. #4 modified by UFH. #5 unknown

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3569.jpg

Of Course #1 is my favorite modification -- looks like some worker loved his work -- I do not think it is a GI modification becasue the bayo has been reparked and black grips added.

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3565.jpg

http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3567.jpg

Going to look at some other manufactures tonight and see if there is a pattern.

Holy Pigsticker, Batman! That top cut down pattern, is downright - AWESOME!:Dhttp://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj19/twwoodall/Bayonets/IMG_3569.jpg
(If the Natzis would've seen that sticker coming their way, would've dropped arms & run!)
What's that little Bayo Junior, on the bottom. Arsenal cut, that short?

Det. Jason 714
12-03-2010, 03:22 PM
#1 is very cool. Reminds me of the point for the AK bayonets. I have never seen a garand bayonet like that.

Charlie59
12-03-2010, 03:31 PM
It also looks like the bayonet used on an Enfield No. 5 jungle carbine.

canes7
12-03-2010, 03:48 PM
The middle one is the style I've seen the most. I would think that after they started cutting down bayos that any that came in broken, but still long enough, were made into cut downs.

If modifying an already broken bayonet you may only have so much to work with and have to get a little imaginative when getting it ready to return to service and that may be where all the different styles come from.

39chevy
12-03-2010, 04:28 PM
along those lines...checked some of my cut downs..one UFH had the flaming bomb and 1942 under that..and small bomb and uc mod on the back...another UFH I bought yesterday at the north store had the UFH..bomb and US but no date..nothing on the other side..but did have UC on the lever under the handles...an OL I bought..box said original with orig scabbard had the OL..bomb and US but no date..the OL I bought box..modified had the OL..bomb and a 1943...is no date a normal encountered deal???

DRBECKER
12-03-2010, 04:48 PM
along those lines...checked some of my cut downs..one UFH had the flaming bomb and 1942 under that..and small bomb and uc mod on the back...another UFH I bought yesterday at the north store had the UFH..bomb and US but no date..nothing on the other side..but did have UC on the lever under the handles...an OL I bought..box said original with orig scabbard had the OL..bomb and US but no date..the OL I bought box..modified had the OL..bomb and a 1943...is no date a normal encountered deal???

The dating of bayonets ended when they went to the 10" blade a few 10" blades that are not cut down are dated 1943 but they are scarce.

petera
12-03-2010, 07:27 PM
I have one shaped like No. 1. The only markings are "SA 1912" and "US" with a serial number.

fwtrent
12-03-2010, 08:10 PM
I have what appears to be a modified M1 that has a blade that is 6-5/8 inches long...it looks as if it was cut professionally (very well done and blade tip is very symmetrical) and has been sharpened...does not look like Bubba did this one...anyone have any thoughts...Black plastic handles...there are no blade mfg markings...any help would be appreciated...can post photos if needed....thanks....Trent

39chevy
12-03-2010, 08:33 PM
ok then..a modified or cut 10" most likely will have a date...an as manufactured 10" most likely will have no date.....thanks for the info

captain-03
12-03-2010, 09:10 PM
ok then..a modified or cut 10" most likely will have a date...an as manufactured 10" most likely will have no date.....thanks for the info

Correct -- the production of the 10" began in '43. All the 16" were dated either 1942 or 1943. They stop dating them with the production of the 10".

Of course all the SAs and RIA were orginally produced with 16" blades so all will have dates ...

rattler
12-04-2010, 12:50 PM
Trent, Korea modified many M1 bayonets to the dimensions of the one you have. They were pretty common years ago-maybe 10 or 15????

fwtrent
12-04-2010, 06:18 PM
Thanks Ratttler....I thought that was the case....great shape but it is short....Trent

edlmann
12-05-2010, 11:36 AM
I have what appears to be a modified M1 that has a blade that is 6-5/8 inches long...it looks as if it was cut professionally (very well done and blade tip is very symmetrical) and has been sharpened...does not look like Bubba did this one...anyone have any thoughts...Black plastic handles...there are no blade mfg markings...any help would be appreciated.

Korean mod to the old M-1 bayonets to bring the blades down to the size as an M5A1 blade and to fit into an M8A1 scabbard. These pop up from time to time.

Look like this?

http://i.ebayimg.com/06/%21B-mIwdwEWk%7E$%28KGrHqF,%21i0EzNfnmhtzBM9G%28eFOZg%7 E%7E_3.JPG

jarheadteacher
12-05-2010, 11:54 AM
Awesome collection. Good for you!
I can't wait to see what I get variety wise from cmp...hope it is a bit like yours.

fwtrent
12-06-2010, 04:01 AM
Korean mod to the old M-1 bayonets to bring the blades down to the size as an M5A1 blade and to fit into an M8A1 scabbard. These pop up from time to time.

Look like this?

http://i.ebayimg.com/06/%21B-mIwdwEWk%7E$%28KGrHqF,%21i0EzNfnmhtzBM9G%28eFOZg%7 E%7E_3.JPG
Looks exactly like that...thanks for the photo....Trent