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presidentg
10-07-2011, 03:43 PM
Not much going on in PresidentG world so I thought I'd make a list of the front and rear sights needed for the .22 rifles CMP has for sale right now.
Remington 40X-Redfield Olympic front and rear
Remington 521- Blade front, Lyman 57RS rear
Remington 513- Blade front, Redfield #75 RT rear
Remington 541X- Redfield #68 globe, Williams FP Low Target
Remington 540X- No sights provided ( Nick Stroebel Old Gunsights & Riflescopes suggests a Redfield #63 globe front and Redfield # 75 rear. Most of my references indicate no sights provided.)
Stevens 416- Blade front, Stevens #106 rear ( The Stevens #25 globe would also be correct. Finding the #25 and #106 will be challenging. Try Gerry Fellers TX)
Mossberg 44US- Hooded blade front, Mossberg 100 or Lyman 57MS rear
Mossberg 144US- Globe front, Redfield #75 rear
Harrington & Richardson M12- Redfield Olympic front Redfield Palma rear
Winchester 52- Redfield Olympic front and rear

Some will be easy to find, some will be very challenging. Finding correct sights for old target rifles is what makes collecting them fun!!
Good luck:cool:

jabbo
10-07-2011, 04:26 PM
Not much going on in PresidentG world so I thought I'd make a list of the front and rear sights needed for the .22 rifles CMP has for sale right now.
Remington 40X-Redfield Olympic front and rear
Remington 521- Blade front, Lyman 57RS rear
Remington 513- Blade front, Redfield #75 RT rear
Remington 541X- Redfield #68 globe, Williams FP Low Target
Remington 540X- No sights provided ( Nick Stroebel Old Gunsights & Riflescopes suggests a Redfield #63 globe front and Redfield # 75 rear. Most of my references indicate no sights provided.)
Stevens 416- Blade front, Stevens #106 rear ( The Stevens #25 globe would also be correct. Finding the #25 and #106 will be challenging. Try Gerry Fellers TX)
Mossberg 44US- Hooded blade front, Mossberg 100 or Lyman 57MS rear
Mossberg 144US- Globe front, Redfield #75 rear
Harrington & Richardson M12- Redfield Olympic front Redfield Palma rear
Winchester 52- Redfield Olympic front and rear

Some will be easy to find, some will be very challenging. Finding correct sights for old target rifles is what makes collecting them fun!!
Good luck:cool:

Having just picked up an M12 and an M416 this morning, I was just now going to post the question for those rifles! Thank you sir! :2T:

444-45
10-07-2011, 04:52 PM
I have a Olympic front sight on order currently with CMP for my USMC 40x, still need the rear sight.

and awaiting word on my recent order of a 521T to see if I made the cut, may be a few weeks or more....still happy to have the oportunity.

On my 40x, have to get out to our state range in Farmington to see how she shoots.

Calfed
10-07-2011, 06:15 PM
While the Redfield Palma is correct for the H&R M12, the Redfield Olympic and International will also work. In fact, I have a Swenson for one of mine
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo32/grant729/sights/012-2-1.jpg

BARFTS
10-08-2011, 02:24 PM
Remington 521- Blade front, Lyman 57RS rear

Does the Lyman 57RS bolt directly to the reciever or is a mount required? The 521 I picked up at the South Store came with a mount. Thanks.

Partick953
10-09-2011, 11:24 PM
my 513t has a front sight block. what front sight would have gone on it? I have a few spare olympic front globes, would they work / be correct?

MP10-32
10-10-2011, 02:33 AM
Patrick953

If the Oly. front will attach to the block, then you will need a rear that has enough elev. to compensate for the height of the front. The taller the front, you have to come up higher in elev.

captain-03
10-10-2011, 08:35 AM
Thanks for the post! Interesting and helpful!!

presidentg
10-10-2011, 11:48 AM
The Lyman 57RS mounts directly to the receiver. I've seen other .22 trainers with the Redfield mounting bar, I expect the Military liked the Redfield #75/Olympic/Palma sights and set up as many rifles a possible for those sights. The #75 would be most appropriate for the 521. The mounting bar actually will make finding sights a bit easier for you as the current Lyman 90MJT and Williams FP Target ( Low and High models) will fit on the mounting bar. Perhaps not "correct" but less expensive and easily available.

djb25
10-10-2011, 03:19 PM
Any idea what front sight would work with the Lyman or Williams rear?

presidentg
10-10-2011, 07:24 PM
If you have a standard dovetail cut in the barrel, look at the Lyman #17 or Lyman #20. The #17 is a good fit for the Remington 521,513, the Stevens 416, the Mossberg 44 & 144. The #20 is larger and better for the larger target rifles. If you have a mounting base look at the Lyman #93 or the Williams Target Globe. Anschutz, Gehmann, Centra and many others make globe front sights but all tend to be more expensive than the Lyman and Williams.

edlmann
10-10-2011, 07:59 PM
Does the Lyman 57RS bolt directly to the reciever or is a mount required? The 521 I picked up at the South Store came with a mount. Thanks.

The 57 RS screws directly - your rifle, like many others, has been altered over the years.

4-5 years ago I saw a 521T barreled receiver at the South Store and someone had brazed a globe front sight into the slot.

Doubs43
10-10-2011, 08:41 PM
The mounting bar actually will make finding sights a bit easier for you as the current Lyman 90MJT and Williams FP Target ( Low and High models) will fit on the mounting bar. Perhaps not "correct" but less expensive and easily available.

A friend has both a Redfield 75 and Lyman MJT rear sight. I tried both on the mounting bar of my 513T and either will work just fine. I hope to get a Redfield 75 in January but in the meantime I've ordered an MJT from Midsouth. With shipping it comes to $81.01. I'll use the Lyman sight until I can make mine correct with the Redfield.

jmm
10-10-2011, 10:11 PM
The 57 RS screws directly - your rifle, like many others, has been altered over the years.

4-5 years ago I saw a 521T barreled receiver at the South Store and someone had brazed a globe front sight into the slot.

I briefly saw a 521T over the weekend at the Thomasville, NC gunshow. (very small show).
The rifle was VERY beaten up, but the owner was basically "selling it for the sights" @ $350! The Redfield was mounted directly to the receiver, no spacer.

He was a nice enough guy, had been a pistol shooter all his life, but his prices were out-of-sight.

Calfed
10-10-2011, 10:30 PM
I briefly saw a 521T over the weekend at the Thomasville, NC gunshow. (very small show).
The rifle was VERY beaten up, but the owner was basically "selling it for the sights" @ $350! The Redfield was mounted directly to the receiver, no spacer.

He was a nice enough guy, had been a pistol shooter all his life, but his prices were out-of-sight.


If the sights were the Lyman 57RS, that is pretty badly overpricing his sights

TJN22
10-14-2011, 11:58 AM
Not much going on in PresidentG world so I thought I'd make a list of the front and rear sights needed for the .22 rifles CMP has for sale right now.......

Mossberg 144US- Globe front.....

What would be the correct height (s) for a Lyman 17 series front sight
using Either a Lyman 90MJT or a Williams FP Target.

Thanks,

TJN

presidentg
10-14-2011, 03:09 PM
Havlin's (The true source of all Mossberg wisdom www.havlinsales.com (http://www.havlinsales.com)) offers the .494" #17A sight with inserts for $32 + shipping. If Vic says use the .494" it's gotta right.