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1903sprfld 04-01-2020 02:17 PM

broken extractors
 
Do 1917s have a problem with wreak extractors? I am rereading Bataan our last ditch. In the book it states that the 11 inf had 550 rifles with broken extractors so troops were given a piece of bamboo to use like a ramrod and run it down the barrel and push the shell out after each shot. I assume he was talking about the 1917 because that is what the PI army used. the scouts and American troops had M1s the air force and support troops 1903s

Jakeroub 04-01-2020 02:23 PM

I haven't heard that, but I think ejectors had a habit of breaking.

John Beard 04-01-2020 02:32 PM

To my knowledge, M1917 extractors were no weaker than M1903 extractors. Both extractors utilized a common design. Both extractors, however, had weaknesses and were prone to breakage. A spare extractor was included in the M1903 wooden spare parts kit stuffed in the butt.


J.B.

Calif-Steve 04-01-2020 03:04 PM

I agree with JB. Extractors were not a problem. But the ejector spring had a nasty habit of breaking. Odd design and ended up being weak.

Milwroad 04-01-2020 08:45 PM

John Beard
 
John, if you don't mind, besides an extractor what other spare parts were stored in the butt? Thanks

John Beard 04-01-2020 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milwroad (Post 1925863)
John, if you don't mind, besides an extractor what other spare parts were stored in the butt? Thanks


The M1903 spare parts kit in the butt contained an extractor, a firing pin, and a striker. All were susceptible to breakage, but not frequently. The spare parts kit was issued in every other rifle, so it served two rifles.


J.B.

Milwroad 04-01-2020 09:44 PM

Thank you!

olBEAR 04-02-2020 06:16 PM

Some years ago I read that you can use a cutdown ballpoint pen spring to temporarily replace a broken extractor spring on the M1917. Anyone confirm this or is it an urban myth?

M1Garandy 04-02-2020 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olBEAR (Post 1926064)
Some years ago I read that you can use a cutdown ballpoint pen spring to temporarily replace a broken extractor spring on the M1917. Anyone confirm this or is it an urban myth?

That's actually the fix for a broken M1917 or Pattern 14 ejector.

Big_Red 04-03-2020 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olBEAR (Post 1926064)
Some years ago I read that you can use a cutdown ballpoint pen spring to temporarily replace a broken extractor spring on the M1917. Anyone confirm this or is it an urban myth?

Olbear,
Not sure what you mean by temporary, and as M1Garandy mentions, maybe you meant ejector...but the existence of a modified ejector using a cutdown ballpoint pen spring (or one similar to it) is confirmed.

Go to post #14 in this thread and you’ll see a pic by Milsurp Collector with an original versus the modified ejector:
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=138422

Midway used to sell one, and the pic included in this link is a good representation of it:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004790095?pid=359847

With that, it’s relatively easy to take an original ejector where the spring has broken off and use a Dremel to cut the tab you see on the Wisener ejector in the ad above to hold the spring.
I have done this on two of my rifles where the original ejector spring broke, and have not had any issues with either of them since.
Of course, this would not be a correct part from a collector standpoint (Just as Milsurp Collector mentions in that thread, I have a few USGI ejectors on hand to include, or replace the modified ones if I sell them).

I have seen reference where a similar spring is placed at the end of the ejector, but have never used that so can’t speak to if it works, fits, etc.

Rob


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