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Arizona Ben 05-30-2013 08:29 PM

5/29/13 report from a newbie
 
This is more for me to share the news that I made my first 'pilgrimage' to the CMP store and that I bought my first Garand yesterday. I have some pics of the store and rifle. The old heads around here won't be impressed with the inventory or my rifle, but it sure was fun for me!

First off, everyone I encountered from employees to other forum members, were all great people. Super friendly and helpful to a guy looking for his first Garand. Thanks!

Next: I chose a 5.6 HRA SG. Errosion measured 2 for throat and muzzle.

There were about 40-50 service grades as of 9am. Only 4 had USGI wood and to my untrained eye none of them looked very good, though I fully admit to not really knowing what Service Grade wood typically looks like. I just know that none of the 4 available appealed to me. I picked up what looked like the nicest of the 4 only to be politely advised to look elsewhere as it had the Greek black park. All of the remaining service grades had pumpkin stocks.

My only disappointment, which is very small, is that the new stocks on the SG rifles were all pumpkin stocks. I would have preferred USGI, but I am still super happy with my selection.

No field grades. Last one was sold Saturday.

Everything else was about standard with what reports from the last couple of weeks have been saying.

A couple questions:
1 - Do SG rifles ever have refinished metal? The metal parts on mine look very nice. Is it too good to be true that this nice finish is not the original? Refinished while still owned by the Army? I'm assuming the CMP doesn't do any sort of work to SG rifles.

2 - Is attaining a more authentic finish with a pumpkin stock a realistic goal? I'd like to refinish mine to obtain a more desirable look.

3 - If I'm reading the parts correctly, the barrel and receiver are both 5/55 HRA. Is this anything unique/special to find on a SG rifle?

I haven't had time yet to disassemble the rifle and see what else it is comprised of. I'll report on that later.

Now some pics of the rifle:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-i...0/DSC_5110.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2...4/DSC_5122.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--...4/DSC_5127.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8...4/DSC_5124.jpg

Arizona Ben 05-30-2013 08:35 PM

Some pics from the store (crappy cell phone quality):
The Twins
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8...0/IMAG0762.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-m...2/IMAG0766.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...2/IMAG0767.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m...0/IMAG0770.jpg

n8huckins 05-30-2013 08:38 PM

2 things, neither of which are going to answer any of your questions lol...

1. Nice panorama of the store, I'm going to steal that if you don't mind!

2. Glad to see the twins are still there (blacky and whitey)

REMEMBER, If you're going to buy one, you HAVE to buy both. They MUST go together! :D

Radionicist 05-30-2013 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arizona Ben (Post 849141)
This is more for me to share the news that I made my first 'pilgrimage' to the CMP store and that I bought my first Garand yesterday. I have some pics of the store and rifle. The old heads around here won't be impressed with the inventory or my rifle, but it sure was fun for me!

Don't sell yourself short - that's a great first report, and your pictures are superb. Thanks for sharing them.

Quote:

A couple questions:
1 - Do SG rifles ever have refinished metal? The metal parts on mine look very nice. Is it too good to be true that this nice finish is not the original? Refinished while still owned by the Army? I'm assuming the CMP doesn't do any sort of work to SG rifles.
They *can* be refinished, but from US arsenals (Red River, Letterkenny, et al). Arsenal rebuilds are often found among the Service Grades (and I seek them out). I believe your rifle has the original finish.

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2 - Is attaining a more authentic finish with a pumpkin stock a realistic goal? I'd like to refinish mine to obtain a more desirable look.
It is doable, but you might be surprised to know that the finish on your stock is very close in color to the USGI birch replacement stocks used during arsenal rebuilds. Here are a couple of pictures of a USGI birch stock I recently bought from Dupage Trading:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ist/birch1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...cist/birch.jpg

The CMP stain is just a bit lighter. You can actually stain the CMP stock to achieve a virtual match - feel free to send me a PM and I'll provide details.

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3 - If I'm reading the parts correctly, the barrel and receiver are both 5/55 HRA. Is this anything unique/special to find on a SG rifle?
Matching receivers and barrels area always nice to find in the SG racks!

You made a good choice on your first trip. Congratulations!


Tony

Roadkingtrax 05-30-2013 10:36 PM

I've got 5627011....close enough. :)

GarandGrabber 05-31-2013 05:03 AM

Gordie and I enjoyed meeting you and the patient pretty lady! Good first report! That rifle will last you a lifetime..I still say the airline should have let you take a few cans of HXP back as carry-on ;)..By the way, my PUMPKIN stock will be here today..I will lightly sand it and apply Chestnut Ridge stain..then 4-5 coats of BLO or Tung..I agree that I'm not a big pumpkin fan. There are alot of threads out there showing these stocks with a little work. Concerning the metal..not dark enough to be Greek IMHO

jaw1947 05-31-2013 05:31 AM

OP, thanks for the report. Do a seach on relieving areas on new stocks.
Good choice for first Garand.

snuffy1a 05-31-2013 07:31 AM

Great report...you and I must have been there about the same time...I reconize several of the same people in the photographs...picked up a very similar Garand on also my first visit to the store. Agree with you on the pumpkin stock...Haven't decided whether to stain or not..Happy shooting...

jimmyzwei 05-31-2013 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Radionicist (Post 849238)
Don't sell yourself short - that's a great first report, and your pictures are superb. Thanks for sharing them.

I totally agree with Tony on this - Congrats on your first trip!


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Originally Posted by Radionicist (Post 849238)
... I believe your rifle has the original finish.

Based on what i can see in the pictures I also think you have original finish,


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Originally Posted by Radionicist (Post 849238)
Matching receivers and barrels area always nice to find in the SG racks

look at the chamber area and see if it is in the white (very shiny natural metal coloring) Generally refinished barrels show parkerizing in the area around the chamber, they do plug the chamber itself so no park get in there. Replaced barrels will rarely date match the rcvr.
The criteria I use is, if chamber is in the white and barrel is correct date for serial number, no noticeable refinish on rcvr, I consider it an original bbl/rcvr combinatiion (much harder to find on WW2 era rifles - most common on post war) (in SG condition I rearely see an HRA with a replaced barrel - note this is just my observation and it may vary with others)

AGAIN Congrats on a nice rifle and thanks for sharing!

jeepdeep 05-31-2013 09:16 AM

A little off topic. Are those coasties looking at the barrel rack? Man I miss he boondoggles, I mean harbor patrols.


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