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kraaash 01-23-2013 10:06 PM

Should I go tomorrow for first garand?
 
I took one trip a few months ago just to figure things out but had to wait till now to have the money, now it sounds like maybe ill be waiting till my next life, I want one that shoots well. :(

FuryUs 01-23-2013 10:08 PM

Yes.

mastergunnera8 01-23-2013 10:12 PM

How far is the drive?...I'd go regardless if it under 8 hrs!!

kraaash 01-23-2013 10:14 PM

Under 2... I really don't have the money to blow if I can't get a nice one... It will ost Likely be my only

Shomway 01-23-2013 10:19 PM

Check the store reports....pickings look a little slim right now.

kraaash 01-23-2013 10:28 PM

That's what I'm seeing, but will they ever get better?

Radionicist 01-23-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraaash (Post 752907)
I took one trip a few months ago just to figure things out but had to wait till now to have the money, now it sounds like maybe ill be waiting till my next life, I want one that shoots well. :(

If you're looking for a good shooter, you can't go wrong with one of the Special Grade rifles. There are plenty of them in stock in the store right now, too.

These are pretty much new rifles, with new barrels and furniture, and a new parkerized finish. Some of the stocks have beautiful figure.

if you're looking for something more collectible, this is not a good time to shop in the Store - the selection is limited.

Good luck!

Shomway 01-23-2013 10:35 PM

If you are looking for a decent Service Grade it might be a few months..thats according to Orest. You could always mail order one rather than going to the store. If you have the money the store does have Service Grade Specials...basicly new rifle with new wood..$950 or you could get a Special Grade which has reparked metal, new barrel, and new wood...$995. From whats been posted lately some of the mail ordered SGs have been pretty nice.

mastergunnera8 01-23-2013 10:35 PM

If I was under 2 hours away id be broke (r)!!...I have a Service grade special that is amazing...sounds like they may be under 300 left..unless that's more than your pocket can handle right now...Id go check regardless...you never know!!! Agree with Shomway...throw in a mail order for a SG...it wont get charged until it ships...may be a bit...

kraaash 01-23-2013 10:38 PM

Ya I'm sg price max for the foreseeable future :cry:, I would like a little collectibility with my garand :D

Shomway 01-23-2013 10:43 PM

Well if you want collectability and a good shooter then you better wait till the store reports start getting better and then make the trip. Mail order is a bit of a crap shoot.

kraaash 01-23-2013 11:00 PM

Thanks for the help

dpd3672 01-24-2013 01:07 AM

Thinking about making the trip on Friday, just to look over the HRA rackers and maybe pick up another Navy B/R. Not sure, though, probably depends on weather and what other plans I have for the day.

lseries 01-24-2013 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kraaash (Post 752934)
Ya I'm sg price max for the foreseeable future :cry:,

Nothing wrong with a good service grade!

Quote:

I would like a little collectibility with my garand :D
I understand what you're saying, but, honestly, ALL Garands are historic at this point just for being what they are.

bergerboy 01-24-2013 06:39 AM

I took the chance last Saturday and made the 2 hour trip down from Mich, and wasn't disappointed.
They had just put out a full rack of Winchester Service Grades that morning, and by the time I got there around 10am, there were only about half of them left.
So, I came away with a very nice WRA SG - with a 1.3M serial number receiver (May of 43), SA barrel from 1949 that measured a 1+/2, and an SA trigger group.
All dressed out in beautiful new CMP oiled walnut stock.
Wasn't exactly what I was looking for, and spent a little more than I had planned ($795 for the Winnie's), but came away very happy with the acquisition, especially after the tear-down inspection when I got it home. The mechs were all in tip-top shape, and many of the pieces look to be barely used!
Looking forward to taking it out to the range - once this cold snap breaks.
Bottom-line, you never know what's going to be there in front of you when you get buzzed in that door!
If you're within a decent drive radius, its at least a fun day trip.
Hit the Bob Evans in Oregon for a late breakfast with my son - and of course Cabellas in Dundee on our way back home.
All in all, a great day!

Patman252 01-24-2013 10:02 AM

Sounds like you got really lucky finding a WW2 G
SG Winchester. Any idea when they might put those out again?

kraaash 01-24-2013 10:11 AM

Didn't end up going today, I think next Wednesday is the day, I've done a fair amount of home work but still feel a little lost, any last minute tips? Super appreciated :D

bergerboy 01-25-2013 10:13 AM

Just make sure you have your necessary credentials: Citizenship ID (Passport, etc - not Drivers Lic), Club Membership card, Hunters Safety Certificate or other Firearms Proficiency proof, etc.
They have the order forms there if you want to fill-out on the spot.
They'll guide you through the process.
And bring more money than you expected to spend - because you'll spend it!

And report back here upon completion of your mission (with photos!)

kraaash 01-25-2013 10:40 AM

Just want to get a good one and not be stuck with a bum. Any pros going this Wednesday that might be able to help me out?

mastergunnera8 01-25-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraaash (Post 754164)
Just want to get a good one and not be stuck with a bum. Any pros going this Wednesday that might be able to help me out?

Ouch...where's the love?

GarandGrabber 01-25-2013 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patman252 (Post 753166)
Sounds like you got really lucky finding a WW2 G
SG Winchester. Any idea when they might put those out again?

I think there may have been a couple SG WRA yesterday. Truly didn't look hard because that wasn't what I was there for. If you call the NS they will tell you if any are on the rack at that moment. Bob must have answered the phone 5 times while I was shootin the breeze with him yesterday. GG

mastergunnera8 01-25-2013 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraaash (Post 753177)
Didn't end up going today, I think next Wednesday is the day, I've done a fair amount of home work but still feel a little lost, any last minute tips? Super appreciated :D

Here's a tip...GO!!!

The Staff will help...GO!!

timfromohio 01-25-2013 10:59 AM

Relatively new the forum, so first off thanks for any feedback.

I'm also contemplating going tomorrow. Do they usually put new stock out each day? I'm interested only in a shooter, not picky about serial numbers. I have a couple of SA SG's I picked up last year that are in new wood and are beautiful. I know there are no SG's available now, but am intrigued with the idea of a decent RG and simply buying a new stock set. How difficult is it to fit into a new stock? I love the idea of a special, but the $$$ ....

I could also just mail order another SG - what is the current wait like?

Thanks again for any feedback.

kraaash 01-25-2013 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mastergunnera8 (Post 754184)
Ouch...where's the love?

Bum rifle

kraaash 01-25-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bergerboy (Post 753055)
I took the chance last Saturday and made the 2 hour trip down from Mich, and wasn't disappointed.
They had just put out a full rack of Winchester Service Grades that morning, and by the time I got there around 10am, there were only about half of them left.
So, I came away with a very nice WRA SG - with a 1.3M serial number receiver (May of 43), SA barrel from 1949 that measured a 1+/2, and an SA trigger group.
All dressed out in beautiful new CMP oiled walnut stock.
Wasn't exactly what I was looking for, and spent a little more than I had planned ($795 for the Winnie's), but came away very happy with the acquisition, especially after the tear-down inspection when I got it home. The mechs were all in tip-top shape, and many of the pieces look to be barely used!
Looking forward to taking it out to the range - once this cold snap breaks.
Bottom-line, you never know what's going to be there in front of you when you get buzzed in that door!
If you're within a decent drive radius, its at least a fun day trip.
Hit the Bob Evans in Oregon for a late breakfast with my son - and of course Cabellas in Dundee on our way back home.
All in all, a great day!

Waffle House > bob evens ;) don't have the WH in Michigan :(

lowrider12 01-25-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by timfromohio (Post 754193)
but am intrigued with the idea of a decent RG and simply buying a new stock set.

I love my RG that I bought in October. shoots just fine. if money is tight, hold off on a new CMP stock set until you are sure that you need one. you'll need some money for ammo too.

I thought I needed a new stock too, but my issue turned out to be worn trigger guard lugs, not a worn-out stock.

others here have said - always go into the store with an open mind. gives you less of a chance for disappointment. :)

mastergunnera8 01-25-2013 11:21 AM

Send it to me first!

bergerboy 01-25-2013 01:27 PM

Also - there seems to be one or two gents that are on-hand to help and advise if you have any questions.
The employees are helpful, and I also had the pleasure of meeting Chuck out on the floor - thought he was an employee of the CMP (maybe the apron with all the gauges, lights, and tools in the chest pockets threw me!), turns out to be just another M1 lover with nothing better to do on a Saturday morning than help out his fellow enthusiasts!
He guided me through several of my "short list" picks that I had set aside, and helped me pick a winner for what I was looking for.

As others have said: Just Go, and bring an open mind and an open wallet - and you won't come away disappointed!

Radionicist 01-25-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timfromohio (Post 754193)
I know there are no SG's available now, but am intrigued with the idea of a decent RG and simply buying a new stock set. How difficult is it to fit into a new stock? I love the idea of a special, but the $$$ ....

The Rack Grade that I examined on Wednesday were nice, for a Rack Grade. :) There were a couple with low barrel readings, but most swallowed a muzzle gauge and had throat erosion readings over 5. The could be good shooters, but they've seen a lot of use.

GarandGrabber 01-25-2013 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Radionicist (Post 754412)
The Rack Grade that I examined on Wednesday were nice, for a Rack Grade. :) There were a couple with low barrel readings, but most swallowed a muzzle gauge and had throat erosion readings over 5. The could be good shooters, but they've seen a lot of use.

As Radionicist says..If you are buying a RG for a shooter, take a gauge down the line and gauge muzzles first. Of the 30 or so HRA they had yesterday I grabbed the only 3 that were 2 or under. For a shooter I would be a little worried if it gauged much higher

timfromohio 01-25-2013 03:28 PM

Thanks guys - I think I'll either go with ordering a SA SG via mail or go get a special. What do you guys think - again, just for a shooter - is the special (with new barrel) that much better? Worth the extra $300?

MyTurn 01-25-2013 03:38 PM

They had some nice SG Specials there on Thursday (yesterday) and it's hard to go wrong with one. No SGs but some rack grades of all things (I found three). I'd look at those if you go just in case. Some had a MW of just over 1 and TEs of just over 2. For $475 as a shooter they would be great if any are left by tomorrow.

GarandGrabber 01-25-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MyTurn (Post 754494)
They had some nice SG Specials there on Thursday (yesterday) and it's hard to go wrong with one. No SGs but some rack grades of all things (I found three). I'd look at those if you go just in case. Some had a MW of just over 1 and TEs of just over 2. For $475 as a shooter they would be great if any are left by tomorrow.

Aren't you worried your wife will find this website? Ha Ha Ha..Yep If I wanted a pure shooter right now I would do the Service Grade Special..Add correct wood later and have a correct grade JMHO

MyTurn 01-25-2013 04:26 PM

Oh, crap! Hope she doesn't!

timfromohio 01-25-2013 04:35 PM

I have a wonderful wife who is very understanding. There is also a bead store in Oberlin that I told her we could perhaps stop at on the way back ...

MyTurn 01-25-2013 04:38 PM

Tim-

Win, win, I'd say. Nice play!

abeal 01-25-2013 06:09 PM

The SG Specials will disappear in the near future, probably never to be seen again. They are correct rifles except for the stock. The Specials are built up from parts and are more likely to be around in the future.

The regular BRs are worth the money also if you have parts.

kraaash 01-27-2013 06:18 PM

Is Wednesday the best day to go for firs garand?

n8huckins 01-28-2013 10:18 AM

In the past the stock refreshing was done on Wednesdays, but lately with the stock being so thin, I think they're putting out what they can whenever they can.

I would highly recommend mail ordering at this point kraaash.

kraaash 01-28-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n8huckins (Post 757043)
In the past the stock refreshing was done on Wednesdays, but lately with the stock being so thin, I think they're putting out what they can whenever they can.

I would highly recommend mail ordering at this point kraaash.

Isn't that a bit risky ?


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