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USSR 10-22-2010 06:49 PM

WTS: USSR Service Rifle Stain (NY)
 
A recent purchase of a woodless rack grade M1 Garand, led me to the purchase of a used stock and a subsequent stock refinishing project. Now, I had seen the results of countless do-it-yourself projects on the forums using various methods, and the results while nice (for a sporting rifle), did not match the way they came originally or from an U.S. arsenal rebuild. Since I have a new, unissued Smith-Corona 03-A3 and a 1980’s DCM supplied, 1960’s Anniston rebuild M1 Garand, I knew exactly the way a U.S. service rifle stock should look. So, I played chemist until I had the exact formulation to produce the deep, rich coloration found on original service rifle stocks. My stain is oil-based, and sets the stock up to receive whatever finish you prefer to use. I’ll let you guys fight the BLO vs. Tung oil battle, and will only say that I used BLO. Here are the results on walnut:

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As a result of the positive feedback that I have received from several people who have tried it, I will now be offering it for sale. I am not a high volume business, just a shooter with a good product to offer to fellow service rifle shooters. The stain comes in a .5 oz. bottle, which should be enough for 1 Garand stock, and perhaps 2 Carbine stocks. The price for one bottle is $9.95, and two bottles is $17.95. Shipping is (EDIT: Due to the Post Office's recent price increase, I have had to change my shipping charge to $4.00 in the continental U.S. - making for a total of $13.95 for 1 bottle and $21.95 for 2 bottles), and it is shipped in a bubble mailer with delivery confirmation. New York State residents need to add 8% to the total price for NYS sales tax. Payment method should be money order (my address is below) or PayPal (my account is my email address: ussr 'insert AT symbol' empacc.net). I thank you for your interest in USSR, the Ultimate Stain for Service Rifles.

Sincerely,

Don Kakretz

USSR
P.O. Box 722
Burdett, NY 14818

bubbasuwannee 10-30-2010 06:34 AM

Looks real good! I sent you payment for 2 bottles last night since I want to re-do my CMP stock over the Winter.

Mac Attack 10-30-2010 12:02 PM

I purchased a bottle of dye from USSR to refinish my Carbine. The dye gave a uniform color on the stock and handguard and turned out great. A little lighter colored than other rifles I have seen that used the dye but nice enough that I am happy with it. I read in another post that some buyer was able to coat 4 carbine stocks with one bottle. I guess it could be true if you only use a light coat but I used the whole darn bottle on one stock. Very happy with the results.

USSR 10-30-2010 05:25 PM

Thanks for your kind words, Mac Attack.

bubbasuwannee,

Your order will be shipping on Monday. Thanks for your business.

Don

bubbasuwannee 10-30-2010 11:12 PM

Looking forward to it, thanks!

FiftyCalAl 01-28-2011 08:57 PM

do you 'cut' the stain with mineral spirits or use some kind of 'delievery system', or just rub it in sparingly?

Does it work right out of the bottle on a new CMP birch or walnut replacement stock, or do you need to sand them down first?

btw, I just ordered 2 bottles

USSR 02-18-2011 10:04 PM

FiftyCalAl,

You just apply it directly from the bottle with a cloth. No reason why you couldn't thin it out with mineral spirits, however.

Don

Orlando 02-19-2011 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiftyCalAl (Post 273904)
do you 'cut' the stain with mineral spirits or use some kind of 'delievery system', or just rub it in sparingly?

Does it work right out of the bottle on a new CMP birch or walnut replacement stock, or do you need to sand them down first?

btw, I just ordered 2 bottles


As with any stain you may have to do prepwork first. I would strip any finish first.
I have used this stain multiple times on stripped clean wood and always been pleased with the results.
You will be surprised how far the stain goes.

USSR 02-25-2011 04:13 PM

Thanks for your advice and positive feedback, Orlando.

Don

CMPUser3022 02-26-2011 10:26 AM

I'm totally ignorant here, but does a stain like this help bring out very light cartouches on an unstained stock? I'm trying to learn.

USSR 02-27-2011 08:20 PM

CMPUser3022,

I can only speak of my experience. I bought a Garand stock in which I could not make out the cartouche. I stripped it, being careful in the area of the cartouche, and after applying the stain, I could make out a faint "WRA" cartouche. It helped in my case, but maybe not in yours.

Don

50cal 02-27-2011 10:00 PM

Did you ever try it on light wood does it darken it up or does it stay light? I have a light colored stock that i want to darken up will it do that?

USSR 02-28-2011 12:12 PM

If it's walnut, it will DEFINATELY darken it up. Birch or beech, probably not.

Don

CMPUser3022 03-29-2011 07:24 PM

I just ordered 2 bottles via Paypal.

USSR 04-14-2011 07:57 PM

Petro,

Received your payment and shipped yesterday (04/13). You should receive it by Saturday. Thanks for your business.

Don

Isopropyl 04-14-2011 11:34 PM

Is there a link to more pictures of stocks that have used this? Any that have actually used it on birch? The photos you show look great, just looking for more examples. Thanks.

USSR 04-22-2011 01:03 PM

Isopropyl,

Don't know of anybody using it on birch, so no pictures. But, knowing birch, staining it would produce uneven results at best.

Don

stonecutter2 05-26-2011 11:29 AM

Paypal gift inbound for 1 bottle. Thank you, sir!

USSR 05-26-2011 07:53 PM

stonecutter2,

PayPal payment received, but no shipping address with the payment.

Don

USSR 07-29-2011 06:30 PM

BTT.

Don

mattee88 08-05-2011 08:24 AM

Sending payment for a bottle. Do you recommend the stain then a few coats of blo?

Matt

USSR 08-19-2011 08:32 PM

Matt,

Yep, the stain is not a finish. You need to apply a BLO or Tung Oil finish after the stain. Thanks for your business.

Don

USMCgitmo82 08-19-2011 09:09 PM

ill spring for a bottle for a pending project. paypal gift inbound

mattee88 08-23-2011 12:53 PM

I finished my new Dupage stock with the USSR stain and I love it!! That little bottle really packs a punch. Unfortunately I spilled it.....fortunately it was on my metal work bench so I was able to salvage most of it. I love the color it turned out and still have some left in the bottle for any touch ups. I followed up with a few coats of BLO and am looking to use some Toms 1/3 wax.

Does anyone have any experience with the Toms wax? Does it change the color or stay tacky etc?

Matt

USSR 09-02-2011 04:34 PM

Matt, Glad to hear it worked well for you. I have used Tom's 1/3 wax and like it a lot. Just be sure to apply it lightly, or it will be tacky. Don

BARFTS 09-02-2011 07:00 PM

Ordered 2 bottles. Look for PayPal.

cbs1473 09-03-2011 11:27 AM

I sent a pay pal gift for payment this afternoon for two (2) bottles. Look forward to using them.

mattee88 09-04-2011 07:49 PM

Here it is guys, I used one powerful little bottle of USSR and one coat of Toms 1/3 and here are the results. I will do another coat of Toms as well soon.

http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/...arandBR022.jpg

http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/...arandBR022.jpg

http://s1126.photobucket.com/albums/...arandBR024.jpg

Matt

USMCgitmo82 09-04-2011 07:57 PM

yeah, I thought it was going to be more of a reddish brown stain, this stuff is more of a dark walnut color.

USSR 09-09-2011 05:14 PM

The degree of "red" in the result will vary from one stock to the next, due to different types of wood and any residual finish on the stock.

Don

Vandy58 10-14-2011 08:55 PM

I want some of this but I just purchased a new lighter stock that I should be getting soon. I know it is a usgi Springfield post war, did the only use the walnut? How can you tell what kind of wood it is (I know is is a noob question) and finally how do I take the old stain off?

USSR 10-19-2011 06:30 AM

Hi Vandy58,

If it's a USGI post war stock, it could be walnut or birch. Kind of hard to describe in words the two woods, so I would suggest you do some searching for images on this site and with Google, looking for pictures of the two types of wood stocks. Note: birch does not take any stain well, and the best way to approach it is to apply a light stain to it, and after it dries, apply additional stain to only the "light" portions of the stock. There are numerous methods used to get a stock down to the bare wood. I like to start out by warming up the stock (I place mine near a wood stove) which will cause oil in the stock to come to the surface where it can be wiped off. I usually follow this up with placing a wet cloth on the stock and pressing a hot iron it. This also has the benefit of raising the grain and removing small dents in the wood. Hope that helps.

Don

Vandy58 10-19-2011 10:56 AM

Thanks don, when I get the stock I will be placing an order!!!

rtm16 10-21-2011 04:54 PM

hi don pm sent

USSR 10-21-2011 06:59 PM

Got your email and replied back at you. Thanks for your business, rtm16.

Don

garandfan1971 11-25-2011 05:45 PM

Stock Stain
 
I find that Crud Cutter from Lowe's or Home Depot works well on cleaning stocks.

USSR 12-02-2011 11:52 AM

Thanks for that tip, garandfan1971.

Don

tony1970 12-10-2011 06:27 PM

USSR Stain worked great on my SMLE NO1 Mk3* walnut stock. I would recommend this to anyone refinishing a service rifle stock.

USSR 12-16-2011 07:52 PM

Tony,

Thanks for your kind words, and glad it worked well for you.

Don

USSR 12-23-2011 08:13 PM

Merry Christmas, and thanks to all of you who have found this stain to your liking.

Don


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