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s11033 12-11-2018 07:54 PM

Alternate Caliber Garand Barrels
 
Hey guys,

As some know from a previous post that I made to gauge interest, I've been working on some caliber conversions for Garands. I've reached an agreement with a reputable manufacturer and am ready to start making some barrels. They are not the biggest seller of Garand barrels, but they are very well respected within the service rifle match community.

The calibers at the top of my list right now are .260 Rem and 7-08 Rem. I also plan to do a .284 Win in the future and am currently working on a 6.5 Swede conversion that's almost ready to go. I expect these barrels to be priced in the $250 - $280 range. The 6.5 Swede setup could be slightly more because it requires a modified bullet guide.

Please post if you'd be interested in those calibers or any others. We can make just about any chambering that's 3.34" or less in COAL and has a rim diameter of .473" - .480". We just need about 10 people to commit to a chambering to make a run. Lead times are around 2 months. I'm also in communication with a company that should be able to rent out pull-through reamers to headspace these barrels correctly.

Also, do small sellers need to be paying members of the forum to offer their products? I do other things full-time, and expect to make runs of no more than a dozen barrels at a time. Can anyone provide any information on what I should do to avoid getting myself in trouble with the forum?

Thanks,

Steve

jimthompson502002 12-11-2018 08:33 PM

I can suggest 7x57 Mauser. Runs easy, very accurate, and the brass is easy to find.

However, due to ulnar and carpal tunnel, arthritis, and other issues, I am out of the market.

The most accurate M1 I ever owned--and it wasn't even bedded, but WAS tight and free-floated in front!!--was a 7x57. It outshot the .308's of the time. NOT BY MUCH, and it may have been those wonderful Swedish bullets I had, but I've ever got results like that out of any of the Remington or Winchester proprietaries. Ever.

10thmountain 12-11-2018 08:41 PM

The .270 has always intrigued me. Such a common deer round and shoots flat as a pancake.

Nikkineaux 12-11-2018 08:50 PM

s11033

Do you mean .270 Winchester instead of .270 Rem ?

s11033 12-11-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimthompson502002 (Post 1782106)
I can suggest 7x57 Mauser. Runs easy, very accurate, and the brass is easy to find.

However, due to ulnar and carpal tunnel, arthritis, and other issues, I am out of the market.

The most accurate M1 I ever owned--and it wasn't even bedded, but WAS tight and free-floated in front!!--was a 7x57. It outshot the .308's of the time. NOT BY MUCH, and it may have been those wonderful Swedish bullets I had, but I've ever got results like that out of any of the Remington or Winchester proprietaries. Ever.

7x57 is of interest to me personally because I am originally from Spain. I'll give it a look as well, but I'll need to make sure the case taper won't cause issues.

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Originally Posted by 10thmountain (Post 1782109)
The .270 has always intrigued me. Such a common deer round and shoots flat as a pancake.

Yep, and the long action length would allow bullets to be seated to a COAL much longer than the standard 2.8".

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Originally Posted by Nikkineaux (Post 1782116)
s11033

Do you mean .270 Winchester instead of .270 Rem ?

I meant *7-08 Rem* because I expect that 270 Win would be a barrel burner in a semi-auto. Also, I think many people want milder-shooting calibers. But it's definitely doable if people are interested.

Steve

*EDIT* I accidentally wrote 270 Rem instead of 7-08 Rem.

Nikkineaux 12-12-2018 11:10 AM

Never really thought of the old 270 Winchester as a barrel burner but I have heard that term applied to the 243 Win. I know that Browning & Remington have made a ton of semi-automatics in those calibers. Also the 270's recoil is definitely less that a 30.06.

I think that I have seen on the internet a 458 Win Mag Garand. Now that would be cool!

DeltaTango 12-12-2018 11:43 AM

I’m building up an 03A3 drill in 35 Whelen, it would be nice to have a Garand to match. It should just be a barrel swap, I would think. I have to say, it’s my caliber of choice for hunting in North America. I’ve taken deer, bear, moose, and caribou with it. I’ve somehow skipped taking an elk.

Kestrel4k 12-12-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikkineaux (Post 1782262)
[...] I think that I have seen on the internet a 458 Win Mag Garand. Now that would be cool!

A gunsmith in WA (near Ft. Lewis IIRC) made approx. two dozen of these conversions back in the mid-90's. The enbloc clip held 5-6 rounds, the rifles were rather substantially modified w/ a custom GC assy. Their price was something like $2.5K at the time, and for the work required represented a real bargain. IMO the ultimate Garand, I have never been fortunate enough to see one (or even hear of one for sale); most likely there will never be any more of those. :(

For a more reasonable build, I cannot think of any Garand chambering cooler than a .35 Whelen. :)

Garandimal 12-13-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kestrel4k (Post 1782318)
...For a more reasonable build, I cannot think of any Garand chambering cooler than a .35 Whelen. :)

Quote:

http://shuffsparkerizing.com

Barrel Replacement:

...And if you want something really unique, I can install one of my .35 Whelen barrels on your rifle for $395.
For a 10.5 lb. 24" Bbl'ed semi-automatic rifle?

How about the .338-06 (A-Square).

225 gr. Nosler Accubond (SD 0.281/ BC 0.550) at 2700 fps at the muzzle w/ handloads.




GR

DeltaTango 12-13-2018 05:36 PM

Theoretically an empty 35 Whelen Garand would weigh less than a comparable 30-06 Garand due to it having a bigger bore. I doubt anyone would even tell the difference. My concern would be not having a good way to differentiate the caliber of the Garlands. I could see a 30 caliber bullet going out the .35 rifle. The barrel could be stamped or engraved, I guess.


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