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fartblossom1953 12-04-2009 09:31 PM

Best multi-caliber powder?
 
As everyone is aware match ammo is a bit pricey. I plan on aquiring an 8 pound jug of powder and want input on the most versatile for 223 with 75 to 80 grain, 308 with 168 to 175 grain and 30-06 with 168 to 175 grain. I am leaning towards Varget but also like H4895. I have also had good luck with N540 in 223 and 308. All are gas guns and I need to stay in that gas generation band width. Any thoughts or should I just keep using different powders for that last bit of accuracy?

Em_one 12-04-2009 09:59 PM

You'll probably get a lot of suggestions for Varget since it is a very good all around rifle powder (for the mentioned calibers). I started out and stayed with IMR4064. I use it in .308, .30'06, and .223 and I have found loads that shoot in each caliber fairly easily. For the .30 calibers its been for 168-180gr bullets, for the .223 60gr.

safari 12-05-2009 04:59 AM

You can add .22-250 and .375 H&H to the list of calibers that IMR4064 works very well with.

curtis 12-05-2009 08:45 AM

How about 303 british?

kentuckytroutbum 12-05-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartblossom1953 (Post 22247)
As everyone is aware match ammo is a bit pricey. I plan on aquiring an 8 pound jug of powder and want input on the most versatile for 223 with 75 to 80 grain, 308 with 168 to 175 grain and 30-06 with 168 to 175 grain. I am leaning towards Varget but also like H4895. I have also had good luck with N540 in 223 and 308. All are gas guns and I need to stay in that gas generation band width. Any thoughts or should I just keep using different powders for that last bit of accuracy?

Varget with Hornady's 155 A-max in 30/06 gives accurate loads. I use Win 748 and Accurate 2520 for the 223, and the 30/06. I've been very happy with both as I load for accuracy.

m1ashooter 12-05-2009 04:04 PM

I use AA2520 for my Garand and M1a, its is also has load data for the 303. Wideners has it at $118 for 8lbs

1hdrocks 12-05-2009 09:11 PM

Lot of folks use Varget, I haven't yet.
I can attest to Win 748, Reloader 15 and AA2520 for 223, 308 and 06.

rcolarco 12-06-2009 11:42 AM

I have used Varget and IMR 4064 with good results in the following cartridges:

.30-06 (match loads - 4350 gives more oomph for hunting loads, but keep 4350 away from your M1)

.308 and 7.62x51

.300 Savage

.223 and 5.56

.222 Rem

fartblossom1953 12-06-2009 08:49 PM

Thanks for the info. I mostly shoot 223 and 308 in NRA matches but like shooting the Garands too. I'm leaning towards Varget from other competitors comments but wasn't sure about the gas pressure at the port of a Garand. Thanks for the help.:)

rcolarco 12-06-2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fartblossom1953 (Post 23498)
Thanks for the info. I mostly shoot 223 and 308 in NRA matches but like shooting the Garands too. I'm leaning towards Varget from other competitors comments but wasn't sure about the gas pressure at the port of a Garand. Thanks for the help.:)

Varget is suitable for the M1.

high power 12-06-2009 09:53 PM

for 223 and 30-06 i use imr4895,w748.

HighPowerShooter 12-07-2009 02:23 PM

Varget.......

Tennboy 12-07-2009 02:45 PM

For military calibers/reasonable pricing, IMR 4895.

Tam 3 12-07-2009 03:39 PM

243, 30-40 Krag, 308, 30-06, 45-70, (Trapdoor), H4895.

Regards,

Tam 3

terry_b 12-07-2009 10:28 PM

i used surplus 4895 in 30.06 when it was available, but having used varget in competition .308 and .223, decided it was better than most and as good as the best. so it's my choice for .223,.308, 30.06. just wish i could use it for 7.62AK and .30 carbine. I've got WAY too many bits and pieces of powder from chasing the "perfect" powder

TexTenn59 12-08-2009 08:05 PM

Varget. Fairly clean and great over a wide range of temperatures.

mech1369dlw 12-08-2009 09:56 PM

I load 30-06, .308, .222, .223, and .243. Every one of them get a dose of IMR 4064.

irishsteve 12-09-2009 02:59 PM

Reloder 15 is good in most rifles.Sometimes its a matter of what you can find for sale.

fartblossom1953 12-09-2009 06:44 PM

I currently use H4895 in 223 and Viht N540 in 308. I have been using IMR 4895 for 30-06. The long pieces of both types of 4895 as well as 4064 don't meter as well as the N540 in my powder dropper and I hate weighing every load. The 748 I've used meters good but seems to be pretty "dirty" and I don't like it for the normal 88 shot NRA coarse. I've never used the Varget but beleive it is a short grained stick like N540.

ceresco 12-10-2009 10:22 AM

Try Hodgdon Benchmark for 223 and light (up to 155gr) 308 loads. Meters like ball powders and perfect for those two cartridges. Good Shooting.......

hoosiergc 12-11-2009 08:26 PM

I would add Reloader15 to your list.

Phoenix7 12-11-2009 10:52 PM

One more vote for Varget.

sunray 12-13-2009 03:26 AM

Don't buy a keg, of any powder, until you have worked up a load for your rifle.

red_zr24x4 12-13-2009 11:56 AM

I like AA2015 in my 223 and my 30-06

12BVet 12-13-2009 07:07 PM

IMR4895, H4895, Varget, and Reloader 15 all work very well for heavy .223 bullets, .308, & .30-06. I mainly use H4895 for my Garand. Recently, I bought some Accurate 2495 for about $8/pound less than H4895 or Varget. So far, I have tried it in 168 grain .308 loads. My groups are the same size as when I use Varget or RE15, but the brass and barrel seem to stay cooler with the Accurate 2495. Just my $0.02 worth.

613jmm 12-13-2009 07:45 PM

How many of you that are recommending Varget, are using Dillon presses? I have heard it doesn't meter well through the Dillon powder drops, but I have also heard other people say it works fine if you wait a couple of seconds between cranks of the handle.

terry_b 12-15-2009 01:29 PM

613- I suspect that is good advice on all powder meters. I found my best results with a smooth pull, wait a few seconds, and smoothly back up, and another pause before doing the next drop. No taps or anything. just smooth consistent motions with a pause between actions so the powder can settle itself


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