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PH68 06-17-2019 02:08 PM

J.B. Request for information on 1903 USMC and 1903a2 rifles
 
This past weekend both my son Tom Jr., and I purchased our 1903ís for the YEAR at the CMP. Very happy with both but I have a request for Mr John Beard to provide additional information on them, if possible.

My 1903 rifle is SA #836521 and it seems to have some of the USMC traits of a Marine Corps rifle and I saw on the armor tag that Mr Beard had serviced the rifle and request any additional information he may have on it to confirm my guess that it is in fact a USMC rifle??

My sons rifle is a 1903A2, SA #1468693, which I hadnít seen before or even heard of before. It is my understanding based upon the research that I did that there were about a 1000, they were used for artillery training as a sub caliber weapon. Itís current state is as an issued 1903 service rifle. Wondering if it has more value that a standard issue 1903. Mr Beard if you have any additional details I would appreciate the information.

Hope to have photos posted of both later tonight by my friend Ronwall. I failed the posting picture class!!!

Ronwall 06-17-2019 03:36 PM

Usmc 836521
 
I hope I've kept these in proper order :D


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Ronwall 06-17-2019 03:47 PM

1903a2 sa #1468693
 
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Mark1 06-17-2019 04:59 PM

One USMC trait is vise marks on the barrel. Have you removed the action from the stock?

RedSpecial 06-17-2019 05:33 PM

Wow, an A2, how cool.

twra1301 06-17-2019 07:26 PM

A2 Question
 
Tom, how did you determine the a2 is actually an a2? Was there a serial number sequence of those produced in that configuration? The reason I have for asking is that I have an a1 near that number.





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Quote:

Originally Posted by PH68 (Post 1842161)
This past weekend both my son Tom Jr., and I purchased our 1903ís for the YEAR at the CMP. Very happy with both but I have a request for Mr John Beard to provide additional information on them, if possible.

My 1903 rifle is SA #836521 and it seems to have some of the USMC traits of a Marine Corps rifle and I saw on the armor tag that Mr Beard had serviced the rifle and request any additional information he may have on it to confirm my guess that it is in fact a USMC rifle??

My sons rifle is a 1903A2, SA #1468693, which I hadnít seen before or even heard of before. It is my understanding based upon the research that I did that there were about a 1000, they were used for artillery training as a sub caliber weapon. Itís current state is as an issued 1903 service rifle. Wondering if it has more value that a standard issue 1903. Mr Beard if you have any additional details I would appreciate the information.

Hope to have photos posted of both later tonight by my friend Ronwall. I failed the posting picture class!!!


RedSpecial 06-17-2019 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twra1301 (Post 1842305)
Tom, how did you determine the a2 is actually an a2? Was there a serial number sequence of those produced in that configuration? The reason I have for asking is that I have an a1 near that number.





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They stamped ďA2Ē on the receiver after ď1903Ē above the serial number.

cplnorton 06-17-2019 07:29 PM

The 836XXX rifle looks Marine. The serial range is great. The Marines ordered 8800 Sedgley barrels in 1941, and that contract was completed by Sept 1941.

The rifle has the hatcher hole as it should have post late 1938, and if you pull the handguard it should have the vise marks on the barrel.

Now the CMP can change parts around on these some.

But yes to me, I have no doubt it was a Marine Corps rifle.

It's a great range.

836300 100830USMC - SAN DIEGO
836300 123030USMC
836487 081437USMC - QUANTICO (SURVEY)
836593 032332USMC

PH68 06-17-2019 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cplnorton (Post 1842309)
The 836XXX rifle looks Marine. The serial range is great. The Marines ordered 8800 Sedgley barrels in 1941, and that contract was completed by Sept 1941.

The rifle has the hatcher hole as it should have post late 1938, and if you pull the handguard it should have the vise marks on the barrel.

Now the CMP can change parts around on these some.

But yes to me, I have no doubt it was a Marine Corps rifle.

It's a great range.

836300 100830USMC - SAN DIEGO
836300 123030USMC
836487 081437USMC - QUANTICO (SURVEY)
836593 032332USMC

Thanks Steve for your knowledge and input, very helpful. In this release of 1903’s I believe there may have been at least two, mine and Paul’s (not sure of Forum name) who was with Rob30.06 Saturday, but there was another that had several USMC rifle traits.... This was a good lot of rifles to include several Mark I’s also. Tom

PH68 06-17-2019 07:40 PM

A2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedSpecial (Post 1842307)
They stamped ďA2Ē on the receiver after ď1903Ē above the serial number.

The device was used 1935-1940, my serial number is 1935 range.


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