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Old 02-11-2019, 06:51 PM
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Default Remington M1903 and M03-A3 Stock Markings

Off the top of my head, these are the different "types" of stock markings I can think of, in chronological order-

Remington M1903-

Finger grooves, bolts, boxed "RLB"
Finger grooves, bolts, unboxed spaced "R L B"
No FG, bolts, spaced "R L B"
(All stocks now no FG), bolts, unspaced, "RLB"
Bolts, "FJA"
Pins, "FJA"
Pins, "FJA", A3 handguard ring recess

M03-A3-

Pins, "FJA", HG ring
Pins, "FJA", HG ring, "RA"
Bolts, "FJA", HG ring, "RA"

I do not have info on large crossed cannons cartouche vs small crossed cannons. I think that transition was during '03 production. I'm sure I'm missing something. Can you guys please fill in my list, please?

Mike
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:13 PM
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This would be a great sticky if JB were to confirm your list!
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:46 PM
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Off the top of my head, these are the different "types" of stock markings I can think of, in chronological order-

Remington M1903-

Finger grooves, bolts, boxed "RLB"
No FG, bolts, boxed "R L B"
No FG, bolts, spaced "R L B"
(All stocks now no FG), bolts, unspaced "RLB"
Bolts, "FJA"
Pins, "FJA"
Pins, "FJA", A3 handguard ring recess

M03-A3-

Pins, "FJA", HG ring
Pins, "FJA", HG ring, "RA"
Bolts, "FJA", HG ring, "RA"

I do not have info on large crossed cannons cartouche vs small crossed cannons. I think that transition was during '03 production. I'm sure I'm missing something. Can you guys please fill in my list, please?

Mike

See corrections. You should be aware that overlap and legitimate exceptions exist. Remington did not assemble and/or inspect rifles in serial number sequence.

I have not tracked the size of the crossed cannons.

J.B.

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Old 02-14-2019, 04:32 PM
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I have an early Remington 1903 3001244 so I would need the first stock marked FG bolts boxed RLB.



What time frame did the second stock (no FG bolts Boxed R L B) come in?
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Old 02-14-2019, 07:29 PM
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I have an early Remington 1903 3001244 so I would need the first stock marked FG bolts boxed RLB.

What time frame did the second stock (no FG bolts Boxed R L B) come in?

Phased in generally between S/N 3025000 and S/N 3030000. Again, exceptions exist in both directions.

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Old 02-24-2019, 11:11 AM
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See corrections. You should be aware that overlap and legitimate exceptions exist. Remington did not assemble and/or inspect rifles in serial number sequence.

I have not tracked the size of the crossed cannons.

J.B.
Don't see any corrections. Could you explain further, please? Thanks.

Or are you referring to the overlap and serial number sequence?

Mike
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Old 02-24-2019, 05:56 PM
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Don't see any corrections. Could you explain further, please? Thanks.

Or are you referring to the overlap and serial number sequence?

Mike

The corrections are in the blue Quote of your original posting.


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Old 02-24-2019, 07:05 PM
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Ah, I see, now.

You posted this, "No FG, bolts, boxed "R L B"", as the correction. I assume you meant the "RLB" stamp to be nonspaced? I see now that is an example that I forgot to include.

I also noticed that in adding that example, you omitted my "Finger grooves, bolts, unboxed spaced "R L B"". This is one example that I asked about in this thread - http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=233576

And I understand that it is one of those "legitimate exceptions" that can exist. RTL noted that he and you have both seen a "stock or two" like it, so I threw it in there, and not necessarily in exact chronological order.

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Old 02-24-2019, 08:45 PM
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Ah, I see, now.

You posted this, "No FG, bolts, boxed "R L B"", as the correction. I assume you meant the "RLB" stamp to be nonspaced? I see now that is an example that I forgot to include.

I also noticed that in adding that example, you omitted my "Finger grooves, bolts, unboxed spaced "R L B"". This is one example that I asked about in this thread - http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=233576

And I understand that it is one of those "legitimate exceptions" that can exist. RTL noted that he and you have both seen a "stock or two" like it, so I threw it in there, and not necessarily in exact chronological order.

Mike

Oops!

You are correct. The boxed "RLB" should not be spaced.

A FG stock should not have an unboxed spaced R L B. But exceptions exist. I have seen FG stocks on rifles out past S/N 3,100,000, even though FG stocks were generally phased out by S/N 3,030,000.

Nothing went to waste. Blemished or rejected parts regularly got reworked/repaired and fitted to rifles several months later.

J.B.

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