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Old 06-18-2013, 09:48 PM
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Default Would like some info on my "new" Carbine

Hello everyone. I guess this is the place to go for questions like this. I just bought an M1 Carbine from my local gun shop. I have wanted one for a long time now and almost bought an Auto Ordnance repro last year. Not knowing much about them I was afraid to buy an "original" and find out it was a fake or something. Before going I told my brother I wanted to see if they had an M1. We walked in and there it was. So please tell me if I did good.

It's a National Postal Meter serial #4246XXX.
Barrel is marked -----------------I.B.M. CORP
Front sight is marked-------------dot U dot
Barrel band is marked-------------JM-Q
Bayonet lug is marked-------------EM-Q
Rear sight is unmarked
Safety is a lever, not a push button
Magazine catch is unmarked
Stock is unmarked. I can't find any marks except nicks and gouges.
Hand guard is unmarked. I took it off and checked inside too.
The stock and hand guard are the same color/shade but the hand guard has an older varnished look and is pretty banged up. The stock is more dull and has dark grime from handling around the grip area and front end. Also it has a pretty good wear mark from the sling swivel. And dirt/grime around the edges and where the bolt goes through the receiver.
I have not taken it apart yet. I also got 3 15 round magazines- one marked IS, one marked U and one is unmarked. It has a butt stock mag pouch and a sling which I don't think are original issue but are still old. And a canvas padded rifle bag with M1 pouches on the outside.

Thanks everybody.

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Old 06-18-2013, 09:59 PM
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Not sure, but national postal meters are not the most common. Got any pictures?
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:16 PM
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:48 PM
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Likely a good shooter. http://www.thecmp.org/Sales/carbine.htm
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:56 PM
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Sounds like you have a shooter that has been rebuilt at least once. It will make a good FIRST carbine for you - trust me, the addiction has only started!

Until you can get your hands on some of the standard reference books, just do a lot of searches in the forum here. Lots of good information to read about what you have and how it works!

Welcome to the forum and to your new carbine addiction!
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:43 AM
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Congrats on the buy. You are officially "infected".
Don't be so sure there isn't a stamp on the hand guard. "TN" ( Trimble Nursery & Furniture Co.) is so small and sometimes so light you will miss it. Get a good magnifying glass and move the GH around while looking. Might find a surprise.
You have so much more to tell us. Each part will have a manufactures stamp on it, with rare exceptions. Even the firing pin and extractor, but don't try to take the bolt apart with out the bolt tool. I don't care WHAT the experts will tell you how easy it is, don't do it, you'll end up minus a little part or two.
The bolt needs to come apart anyway to be completely clean. You can soak it in a strong solvent but even that is not as good as complete tear down.

Print out a data sheet, at this link, and you will get an idea what I am talking about.


If the infection is bad enough, join the carbine club and get the newsletters. Some of us even buy the whole back issue collection. OR, just get a free copy of my newsletter index and order just the issues you need for the carbine(s) you own. See the info in the bottom of my post.

One more thing, get better light on your pics. Better the pics,the better the info you'll get. Bad light and fuzzy focus ain't gonna' help.
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Old 06-19-2013, 08:35 AM
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Thanks guys. Can someone tell me what the markings stand for?

Sorry the pics aren't too good. I had to sneak around to get those taken to show a friend of mine. It's all I have so far. My kids don't know I have firearms and I plan to keep it that way until they are old enough. I will get some close-ups taken.

I assume when you guys say "shooter" you mean "not a collector piece".

Which is fine. I knew it wasn't an original and I am completely ok with that. I plan to fire it at some point (already picked up some ammo). I figured it's an arsenal rebuild (which is what the guys at the shop told me) , has been well taken care of and is in great condition.

I just want to know that:
1) it doesn't have any aftermarket, reproduction or fake parts
2) it could have, in it's current configuration possibly have been used and/or rebuilt late WW2

Thanks.

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Old 06-19-2013, 09:30 AM
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1) Hard to tell without detained close-ups of everything but probably all USGI from rebuild.
2) Probably both. My have been used again during Korea (maybe even VietNam) and rebuilt again after Korea (and maybe VietNam).
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Old 06-19-2013, 10:16 AM
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Always "assume" it is collectable. That is until you get ALL the parts ID'ed. That is where the good pics and the date sheet, or at least a complete list of all the parts. It is more than likely going to be what I call a "shooter/collectable". A little collectable and a good shooter.

Until everyone has all the info and maybe some good pics, no one can tell you anything more than has already been said. Print out that data sheet I sent and use it. We are all anxious to see some good "Gun Porn" pics and the list of parts.
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Old 06-19-2013, 11:02 AM
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Default It is one of the late production NPM

probably made March or April 1944 (NPM stopped in April 44). The IBM barrel is most likely original to the receiver. Proof mark could prove this. They used a lot of IBM barrels at the end. If the trigger housing has an N16, that could be original equipment as well.

NPM made some of the best finished and dependable carbines made by any of the makers. I have one made about 10K after yours.
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