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Old 08-20-2019, 03:03 PM
shtgnr shtgnr is offline
 
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Default RNG8655 colt over colt '16 over"43?

I picked up my 1911 and could not be happier. A 1916 vintage frame on a 1943, or so, slide. The gun shipped originally to the San Antonio armory in Dec. of 1916. I guess the referb was done at the Springfield Armory in early 1943 based on the commercial slide with no heat treat on the slide stop. The barrel is a clearly marked Flannery which was made only from '43 to '45. There are some marks on the MSH which are confusing me, not sure if they were added by Springfield or the armory in San Antonio. The Finnish is a bit rough around the edges, but still pretty special.

Any help would be appreciated.

Hope the pictures work.







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Old 08-20-2019, 03:06 PM
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pictures did not work - is MSH the mainspring?

The San Antonio armory would not add any markings as far as I know, a depot repair later might or a rebuild by any number of places.
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Old 08-20-2019, 03:10 PM
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Wow that a pretty gun
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:24 PM
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pictures did not work - is MSH the mainspring?

The San Antonio armory would not add any markings as far as I know, a depot repair later might or a rebuild by any number of places.
Yes, the main spring housing is stamped with a a couple of 4s and a 1, in addition to a couple of dots. Sorry the pictures donít work for you I will edit the post and try to fix it.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:32 PM
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I picked up my 1911 and could not be happier. A 1916 vintage frame on a 1943, or so, slide. The gun shipped originally to the San Antonio armory in Dec. of 1916. I guess the referb was done at the Springfield Armory in early 1943 based on the commercial slide with no heat treat on the slide stop. The barrel is a clearly marked Flannery which was made only from '43 to '45. There are some marks on the MSH which are confusing me, not sure if they were added by Springfield or the armory in San Antonio. The Finnish is a bit rough around the edges, but still pretty special.

Any help would be appreciated.
Ain't no pitchers to be seen...

BUT...

It sounds like you got yerself another one of those LATE WWII (or POST-WWII) Arsenal/Depot builds consisting of a WWI receiver, a WWII slide, & a FLANNERY barrel...all held together by a mix of M1911/M1911A1 parts!!!

Been quite a few of them LATE WWII (or POST-WWII) Arsenal/Depot builds showin' their faces lately!!!

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Old 08-20-2019, 04:47 PM
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The entire frame is 1911, flat, smooth MSH, long machined trigger. The slide looks to be all 1943 fish. I added another link to the pictures hope that works.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:51 PM
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What's the grade?
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:01 PM
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It is a field grade. I was not sure what to expect when I got the call, given it's age I am quite pleased.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:07 PM
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Yer pitchers are humungous...

First thing that jumped out at me was the MODEL 1924 (1924-1945) slide stop...

And it sure looks like you've got one of those COLT COMMERCIAL slides (circa '43)!!!

SEE CLAWSON (3rd Edition) Page 50-51: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3h9xmxenp3...20028.jpg?dl=0

SEE CLAWSON (3rd Edition) Page 52-53: https://www.dropbox.com/s/54d0n2isyb...20029.jpg?dl=0

Interesting mix of components...

Looks like one helluva nice LATE WWII (or POST-WWII) SA build!!!

PARTING SHOT:

The "441" on the base of the MSH is probably an ARMS ROOM rack #!!!



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Old 08-20-2019, 05:26 PM
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sorry about the humungous pictures, kinda panicked when they didn't show the first time. I am guessing that the SA stamp combined with the age of the slide, slide stop and barrel that it has not been messed with since the mid 40's?

Thanks for the info.
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