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Old 08-17-2019, 11:03 AM
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Rack grade 1918 Colt frame, RR type 3 slide.
There are a number of hard to read marks on the top of the slide. Maybe 12 in total, most look like "A" , some could be "X" ,"V" or "Y". they don't look uniform like a stamp. Anyone ever seen something like this?

The frame has a two AA overhaul mark. Did Augusta ever mark the slide?

Unless I can find a better answer I'll say that they represent dead German officers.




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Old 08-17-2019, 11:58 AM
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Now THAT is one authentic-looking pistol thatís seen one heckuva lot a combat use! The pitting under the park may indicate that is saw a lot of time in the jungle, South Pacific/PTO jungle use maybe? My first thought was yours; notch marks cut into the slide by a soldier/marine. That doesnít look like arsenal marks to me at all, more like Kabar cuts. Very cool pistol, wish it could talk!
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:28 PM
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Now THAT is one authentic-looking pistol thatís seen one heckuva lot a combat use! The pitting under the park may indicate that is saw a lot of time in the jungle, South Pacific/PTO jungle use maybe? My first thought was yours; notch marks cut into the slide by a soldier/marine. That doesnít look like arsenal marks to me at all, more like Kabar cuts. Very cool pistol, wish it could talk!
I never thought about the Pacific, that's interesting!
Also, not shown in the photo but the bottom half of the main spring housing has a lot of nicks and scratches, the part that would be exposed in a holster.

She has definitely seen things and been places!
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Old 08-17-2019, 06:40 PM
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Rack grade 1918 Colt frame, RR type 3 slide.
Looks like you've got yerself a late WWII (or POST-WWII) Arsenal/Depot build consisting of a WWI receiver, WWII slide, and a mix of M1911/M1911A1 parts holdin' it all together!!!

Seen a bunch of 'em poppin' up hereabouts lately!!!

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Old 08-18-2019, 01:10 AM
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I'm sorry but my thought is this:

Since the "P" (proof mark) is stamped OVER one of the "X's"...… the X's were there during production and not buffed out entirely.
Then either since it was cosmetic or simply overlooked, the pistol passed inspection and went on to live a full life.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:47 AM
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I'm sorry but my thought is this:

Since the "P" (proof mark) is stamped OVER one of the "X's"...Ö the X's were there during production and not buffed out entirely.
Then either since it was cosmetic or simply overlooked, the pistol passed inspection and went on to live a full life.

Using a good light and high power magnification I con't tell 100% witch mark is over the other.
My first thought is it was from being chucked up in a vice.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:58 AM
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Looks like you've got yerself a late WWII (or POST-WWII) Arsenal/Depot build consisting of a WWI receiver, WWII slide, and a mix of M1911/M1911A1 parts holdin' it all together!!!

Seen a bunch of 'em poppin' up hereabouts lately!!!

Thanks.
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Old 08-18-2019, 09:08 AM
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Using a good light and high power magnification I con't tell 100% witch mark is over the other.
My first thought is it was from being chucked up in a vice.

I'm thinkin' that the zigzag line might be the result of tool chatter during the straddle-milling operation...

CUZ...

That's a relatively coarse overall finish compared to most REMINGTON RANDS!!!!

One (or more) of the milling cutters might have been totally worn out!!!

BUT...

Only THE SHADOW KNOWS for sure!!!

SEE Figure 11: https://forum.m1911.org//temp/1911manufacture.pdf



PARTING SHOT:

It also strikes me the inspector that struck the "P" proof mark on top of the slide was either hung over or in a really bad mood that day!!!

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Old 08-18-2019, 10:27 AM
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I'm thinkin' that the zigzag line might be the result of tool chatter during the straddle-milling operation...

CUZ...

That's a relatively coarse overall finish compared to most REMINGTON RANDS!!!!

One (or more) of the milling cutters might have been totally worn out!!!

BUT...

Only THE SHADOW KNOWS for sure!!!

SEE Figure 11: https://forum.m1911.org//temp/1911manufacture.pdf



PARTING SHOT:

It also strikes me as odd that there's no "P" proof mark on the top of the slide!!!

And that punch mark (hardness check?) is also rather unique!!!

That "punch mark" isn't...……….. it's the "P" that is supposed to be there...…
Look at it closely, it's not round but has a flat side.
That flat side is where the tail would extend from, but the tail is missing.
The "P" wasn't hit evenly though, so you are missing the tail.

(As the photo is orientated...… the "flat" side is on the bottom and the tail would extend out from there, towards the rear sight)…………….. .

Then if you look at the "X" on the "P's" 10:00 or so...…. the "X" is cut off by the P...… telling me the P was stamped after the X.
Remington Rand's were inspected and proofed after Parkerizing, so the X''s could have easily been missed.

Now with rebuilding, wear and refinishing.....the X's are visible.

PS...… I decided not to try and get a M1911 since I already have a few. But they are selling some NICE ones!
Congrats!
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