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Old 02-24-2021, 01:16 PM
Bad Gambler Bad Gambler is offline
 
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Default Red River Army Depot Inland???

Hey guys, I begged 6 Ring (Roger) to sell me this Inland several years ago. I'm not an expert but it appears correct/original.

I finally got around to having the CMP do a serial number search and they do not have any record of it. It also came with a RRAD box from Texarkana Texas dated 4/1/68.

My question is, could this be the actual box this carbine came in, or could this be an NRA carbine and the box somehow got mixed in with it? Might be impossible to tell. The box is in the pictures.

This is a great shooting carbine and now its the only one I own. I love it.

Anyway, here are some pictures. Any opinions would be great.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...ZXS2VybXV4RVdn

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Old 02-24-2021, 01:46 PM
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The date on the label is a Julian date 4168 which is probably June 17, 1964.
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Old 02-24-2021, 02:09 PM
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I sold that beat up shooter, six years, one week and four days ago, but who is counting.
The date on the shipping label is 7-16-64. About four weeks from June 17, 1964 when the order was taken to out the door July 16, 64.
I sold it as I received it. And I was told a few years back, CMP does not have all the DMC records.
Anyway, this was sold through the NRA not through the DCM.

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Old 02-24-2021, 04:49 PM
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Bubba must have been too busy and couldn't do his custom checkering on the stock.
Just a regular ole Inland now.........

Nice Carbine !
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:07 PM
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LoL, great. My questions have been answered.

Roger, you probably have 10 more at home nicer then this one so I'm sure you don't miss it.

Thanks guys for the responses.
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Old 02-24-2021, 11:08 PM
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Actually, you had to be an NRA member to get a USGI carbine in 1964 - for the princely sum of $20.00 American!

The NRA membership was required to qualify for direct purchase by the Department of the Army Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) Program, in support of promoting Civilian Marksmanship. So, yes, the NRA was definitely involved, but the Carbine was actually shipped from a US Government Arsenal and they got the check.

I got my DCM H&R M1 shipped direct to my local US Post Office (!) the same way - you should have seen the Postman at the counter when I picked it up and told him it was an M1 Rifle - from Anniston Arsenal. This was in the 1980's, and ONLY the US Military could US Mail ship a weapon direct to a private citizen, and he didn't know that was even possible. CC
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:33 AM
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Actually, you had to be an NRA member to get a USGI carbine in 1964 - for the princely sum of $20.00 American!

The NRA membership was required to qualify for direct purchase by the Department of the Army Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) Program, in support of promoting Civilian Marksmanship. So, yes, the NRA was definitely involved, but the Carbine was actually shipped from a US Government Arsenal and they got the check.

I got my DCM H&R M1 shipped direct to my local US Post Office (!) the same way - you should have seen the Postman at the counter when I picked it up and told him it was an M1 Rifle - from Anniston Arsenal. This was in the 1980's, and ONLY the US Military could US Mail ship a weapon direct to a private citizen, and he didn't know that was even possible. CC
That is a great story. I have read a lot about the NRA selling garands and carbines and have seen the old adds pop up on social media.

I guess if my carbine did come in this box, F.W. Dillenbeck Jr of East Syracuse NY was the first owner and paid $20 for this carbine back in 1964.
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Old 02-25-2021, 06:22 AM
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Default Red River Depot Inland

I have one that would be its twin, except the ser#. I am going to have the CMP do a research on it.
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:19 PM
Col. Colt Col. Colt is offline
 
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There is - or was - more than one way to research DCM guns, I know the CMP has some of the records, but you used to be able to research it direct in the .gov. Perhaps someone here recalls what office or department that was. CC
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Old 02-27-2021, 01:53 AM
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Hey guys, I begged 6 Ring (Roger) to sell me this Inland several years ago. I'm not an expert but it appears correct/original.

I finally got around to having the CMP do a serial number search and they do not have any record of it. It also came with a RRAD box from Texarkana Texas dated 4/1/68.

My question is, could this be the actual box this carbine came in, or could this be an NRA carbine and the box somehow got mixed in with it? Might be impossible to tell. The box is in the pictures.

This is a great shooting carbine and now its the only one I own. I love it.

Anyway, here are some pictures. Any opinions would be great.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...ZXS2VybXV4RVdn
About 30 years ago I bought an 03-A3 from a guy I worked with and he threw in a M1898 Krag and a shipping box that was from Red River Army Depot containing another scant stock. The shipment was to a gentleman from Wilcox, AZ in the early 1950's via Railway Express.

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Actually, you had to be an NRA member to get a USGI carbine in 1964 - for the princely sum of $20.00 American!

The NRA membership was required to qualify for direct purchase by the Department of the Army Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) Program, in support of promoting Civilian Marksmanship. So, yes, the NRA was definitely involved, but the Carbine was actually shipped from a US Government Arsenal and they got the check.

I got my DCM H&R M1 shipped direct to my local US Post Office (!) the same way - you should have seen the Postman at the counter when I picked it up and told him it was an M1 Rifle - from Anniston Arsenal. This was in the 1980's, and ONLY the US Military could US Mail ship a weapon direct to a private citizen, and he didn't know that was even possible. CC
In 1987, my Dad and I shot our qualifying matches for our "one in a lifetime" M1's from the DCM. We paid $165.00 (the price of the rifle was 95.00 and the rest was administration fees) each for the rifles and they came from Anniston. Both were IHC's and the serial numbers were very close together, his came all correct with a birch stock. They too came by US Postal Service and were delivered to the house by the mail carrier. He was as excited as Dad and hung around to see Dad open it up.

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There is - or was - more than one way to research DCM guns, I know the CMP has some of the records, but you used to be able to research it direct in the .gov. Perhaps someone here recalls what office or department that was. CC
You might be able to do a FOIA request like the folks in the 1911 forum are doing.
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