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Old 12-06-2018, 10:47 AM
Newscotlander Newscotlander is online now
 
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Nice late Winchester. Notice long barrel channel and gray paint on rear sight.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/791522612
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:37 AM
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Although I was going to say the front sight pin looks to have been out and maybe the T-2 band swapped out for the T-3 band, the location of the PW oval tells me a T-3 band was originally on the carbine. Also a front sight pin not being staked can be typical of Winchesters.
I am sorry, I can find no fault with this carbine.
If and I say if, the band was swapped out, the carbine could have had a original SA T-3 band and swapped because of "some book". If you have a late Winchester with a SA T-3 band, don't swap it out.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:13 PM
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So an SA band could be correct on a late Winch? Thanks.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:17 PM
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If it did have an SA type 3 band it might not have sold for $2900 even if it was the original band.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:57 PM
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Tony,
You are more than correct. With a SA band it would have been around $1,500 maybe.
See "books" although not right, we tend to believe them and turn original carbines into restorations. I know I did that when I started. It was easier to look at the "book" than research the CC NLs and/or "War Baby" for the real information. I replaced a SA band on a 7.2 with a low C band, at least a time or two. "Live and Learn."
I was told, "SA manufactured 160,000 T-3 bands between January 1 and June 30, 1945."
It makes since to me if Winchester ran short of type 2 bands, SA would furnish them to be installed than to having to rebuild it later. There would be no need to order additional type 2 bands or wait for Winchester's supplier to switch over to make type 3 bands, when type 3 SA bands or others were being available.
It is also possible for late Winchesters to have a AMCO T-3 band original.
Several suppliers of T-3 bands had government contracts from mid 1944 to mid 1945.

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Old 12-06-2018, 06:23 PM
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I have seen two factory original late Winchester carbines with SA T-3 bands, one of which I owned years ago and have long since sold. The other was in a collection of a gentleman that I really didn't know that well but a friend of mine knew. He had a small but higher end collection of US Martial arms. No question in my mind that SA T-3 bands were used on some late production WRA carbines.
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:43 AM
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I have a late winchester appears correct with grey paint on adjustable rear sight. My question is,could a type 3 band with D in a diamond be original?
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Old 12-07-2018, 12:16 PM
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I have a late winchester appears correct with grey paint on adjustable rear sight. My question is,could a type 3 band with D in a diamond be original?
Yes, that was one of the ones seen.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:29 PM
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is one of highest price sales I have seen for late winchester with the name hidden under the sight
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Old 12-08-2018, 03:04 PM
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Tis the seller of the $10,000 IP carbine...... about 95% fake parts.

https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=65368
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