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Old 06-17-2019, 02:08 PM
PH68 PH68 is online now
 
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Default J.B. Request for information on 1903 USMC and 1903a2 rifles

This past weekend both my son Tom Jr., and I purchased our 1903ís for the YEAR at the CMP. Very happy with both but I have a request for Mr John Beard to provide additional information on them, if possible.

My 1903 rifle is SA #836521 and it seems to have some of the USMC traits of a Marine Corps rifle and I saw on the armor tag that Mr Beard had serviced the rifle and request any additional information he may have on it to confirm my guess that it is in fact a USMC rifle??

My sons rifle is a 1903A2, SA #1468693, which I hadnít seen before or even heard of before. It is my understanding based upon the research that I did that there were about a 1000, they were used for artillery training as a sub caliber weapon. Itís current state is as an issued 1903 service rifle. Wondering if it has more value that a standard issue 1903. Mr Beard if you have any additional details I would appreciate the information.

Hope to have photos posted of both later tonight by my friend Ronwall. I failed the posting picture class!!!
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Old 06-17-2019, 03:36 PM
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Default Usmc 836521

I hope I've kept these in proper order


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Old 06-17-2019, 04:59 PM
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One USMC trait is vise marks on the barrel. Have you removed the action from the stock?
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Old 06-17-2019, 05:33 PM
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Wow, an A2, how cool.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:26 PM
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Default A2 Question

Tom, how did you determine the a2 is actually an a2? Was there a serial number sequence of those produced in that configuration? The reason I have for asking is that I have an a1 near that number.





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This past weekend both my son Tom Jr., and I purchased our 1903ís for the YEAR at the CMP. Very happy with both but I have a request for Mr John Beard to provide additional information on them, if possible.

My 1903 rifle is SA #836521 and it seems to have some of the USMC traits of a Marine Corps rifle and I saw on the armor tag that Mr Beard had serviced the rifle and request any additional information he may have on it to confirm my guess that it is in fact a USMC rifle??

My sons rifle is a 1903A2, SA #1468693, which I hadnít seen before or even heard of before. It is my understanding based upon the research that I did that there were about a 1000, they were used for artillery training as a sub caliber weapon. Itís current state is as an issued 1903 service rifle. Wondering if it has more value that a standard issue 1903. Mr Beard if you have any additional details I would appreciate the information.

Hope to have photos posted of both later tonight by my friend Ronwall. I failed the posting picture class!!!
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:28 PM
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Tom, how did you determine the a2 is actually an a2? Was there a serial number sequence of those produced in that configuration? The reason I have for asking is that I have an a1 near that number.





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They stamped ďA2Ē on the receiver after ď1903Ē above the serial number.
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:29 PM
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The 836XXX rifle looks Marine. The serial range is great. The Marines ordered 8800 Sedgley barrels in 1941, and that contract was completed by Sept 1941.

The rifle has the hatcher hole as it should have post late 1938, and if you pull the handguard it should have the vise marks on the barrel.

Now the CMP can change parts around on these some.

But yes to me, I have no doubt it was a Marine Corps rifle.

It's a great range.

836300 100830USMC - SAN DIEGO
836300 123030USMC
836487 081437USMC - QUANTICO (SURVEY)
836593 032332USMC
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Old 06-17-2019, 07:38 PM
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The 836XXX rifle looks Marine. The serial range is great. The Marines ordered 8800 Sedgley barrels in 1941, and that contract was completed by Sept 1941.

The rifle has the hatcher hole as it should have post late 1938, and if you pull the handguard it should have the vise marks on the barrel.

Now the CMP can change parts around on these some.

But yes to me, I have no doubt it was a Marine Corps rifle.

It's a great range.

836300 100830USMC - SAN DIEGO
836300 123030USMC
836487 081437USMC - QUANTICO (SURVEY)
836593 032332USMC
Thanks Steve for your knowledge and input, very helpful. In this release of 1903’s I believe there may have been at least two, mine and Paul’s (not sure of Forum name) who was with Rob30.06 Saturday, but there was another that had several USMC rifle traits.... This was a good lot of rifles to include several Mark I’s also. Tom

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Old 06-17-2019, 07:40 PM
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They stamped ďA2Ē on the receiver after ď1903Ē above the serial number.
The device was used 1935-1940, my serial number is 1935 range.
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