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Old 11-24-2018, 02:24 AM
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What documentation is there of the serial number range being sent to the Marines? Is it in the SRS or another publication?
The list for where all of them in that number range were is incomplete. But as very few frames were machined by the Army, in fact told not to by the brass, that leaves that one as likely being a Marine pistol. If you look at the records for 1924 to 1937, where records exist, most of the ones from 613350 to 628498 are listed as USMC pistols shipped to Nicaragua or USMC. Where they were from 1919 to then is speculation as it wasn't recorded as to where 582591 to 629500 were and it was assumed they went to SA for storage/distribution.
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Old 11-24-2018, 07:03 AM
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To anyone who thinks these pistols are overpriced...I expect that in about ten or fifteen years these guns will be highly sought after, and people will pay a premium for one that has not been altered from the condition it was received. The boxes and paperwork will add to the premium as well. Many will shoot a lot of ammo through them, others will attempt to "correct" them by switching and replacing parts on them. One of these guns that is fired very little and unmolested will have interest and value. There is a lot of interest these days in Garands that have been reconditioned and there will be interest in these 1911 pistols. I am not a collector of rare and like new original condition military 1911's, but I would like to have "real" U.S. Military 1911 that is in nice condition so this batch of handguns is especially appealing to me.
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Old 11-24-2018, 08:27 AM
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That is another great looking 1911A1 ! I agree 100% that these pistols , whatever slide they may have on them are priced right and will increase in value as time goes by . It's not about right now , it's about 20 + years from now . Those replacement slides will be probably the lowest production variation therefore commanding higher values , the CMP documentation provides rock solid provenance & the rebuild was performed by a armorer while the pistols were still in service .That is a recipe for a great investment .

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Old 11-24-2018, 09:37 AM
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Um... was unaware that these would have replacement slides. Not sure I'd want one. That greatly devalues the gun.
CMP1911ADMIN has stated that he will pull the applications of those that wish to withdraw from the lottery.
Feel free to do so if you feel that strongly that there's a chance you'll get a substandard pistol.
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Old 11-24-2018, 10:20 AM
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CMP1911ADMIN has stated that he will pull the applications of those that wish to withdraw from the lottery.
Feel free to do so if you feel that strongly that there's a chance you'll get a substandard pistol.
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:25 AM
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Um... was unaware that these would have replacement slides. Not sure I'd want one. That greatly devalues the gun.

How exactly could you not expect a rebuilt weapon to have the most updated parts and finishes of the time rebuilt? Extremely common on all US issue weapons.
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:34 AM
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The people who try to "correct" these pistols will do more damage to the value than if they just left them as-is. But once parts start being changed, the documentation and provenance they come with is pretty much worthless.
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:44 AM
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Congrats to everyone receiving the 1911's! They all look great!
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Old 11-24-2018, 11:51 AM
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The people who try to "correct" these pistols will do more damage to the value than if they just left them as-is. But once parts start being changed, the documentation and provenance they come with is pretty much worthless.
On a rebuilt pistol, how exactly would you know?
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Old 11-24-2018, 12:00 PM
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On a rebuilt pistol, how exactly would you know?
Wear patterns, matching finishes, etc. But most of these already have rebuild markings on them, so no matter what parts are on them they will never have the same value as original condition pistols. The way they are coming from the CMP is the way they should stay because that represents the last, best configuration in which they were in gov't service.
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