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Old 10-08-2018, 06:51 AM
.22shooter .22shooter is offline
 
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Not specific to 1911s but it sounds like the degree of maintenance our service pistols receive varies from unit to unit. A good armament section and well trained unit armorers can do a lot for longevity if they just follow the TM.

I've have been issued a few beaters M9s...still shot expert.

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Old 10-08-2018, 01:57 PM
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I served in medical and later armor units. In the
National guard
pistols sat in a climate controlled arms room for all but about 20 days a year- annual training for 2 weeks ( often protected in plastic bags to keep clean) and one drill weekend for qualification. Those I saw and handled were all original with 90% finish. Hardly the beat to death rattle traps some talk about.


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Old 10-08-2018, 09:57 PM
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In 1988, I was a MP in Germany, the 1911a1s' of the E-6 and below were well worn, while recovering from a broken hand, I was assigned to the arms room. All the pistols of the E-7s and above were all very nice and might have been matching, they were all real nice, one night I was ********ed off and bored any spent of the night swapping tops and barrels around. The one thing about MP pistols were, they might have been clean with Gum out and a green pad, but you never saw one with pits on it.
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:17 AM
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I was a 19kilo in late 80s. The 1911s we had were well used, you could almost disassemble them with some shaking. That being said, I qualified expert with mine on 3 occasions, so they shot fairly well. I remember thinking that the m9s were a welcome change.
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:53 AM
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Default Just a thought about the M1911A1's

Reading through the posts, we note that condition of the M1911A1's ranged from well-worn veterans to new/near new. I didn't see anything [regardless the condition] of pistols that failed to do their duty. When the M1911A1's were replaced by the M9, remember that the Beretta contract was put on hold because of what the GAO found to be problems [eventually corrected].

https://www.gao.gov/assets/220/210461.pdf

If you Google Search "M9 Problems" you can find a number of GAO reports concerning the M9 and more specifically cracked slides.
The contract for a replacement to the M9, awarded to SIG, should give us a new service pistol and perhaps M9's eventually available to the CMP[?]. I don't want one, but I hope to live until the XM17/XM18 are released
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Old 10-10-2018, 12:17 PM
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Reading through the posts, we note that condition of the M1911A1's ranged from well-worn veterans to new/near new. I didn't see anything [regardless the condition] of pistols that failed to do their duty. When the M1911A1's were replaced by the M9, remember that the Beretta contract was put on hold because of what the GAO found to be problems [eventually corrected].

https://www.gao.gov/assets/220/210461.pdf

If you Google Search "M9 Problems" you can find a number of GAO reports concerning the M9 and more specifically cracked slides.
The contract for a replacement to the M9, awarded to SIG, should give us a new service pistol and perhaps M9's eventually available to the CMP[?]. I don't want one, but I hope to live until the XM17/XM18 are released
I wouldn’t hold my breath. The 1911 has been obsoleted for 30 years and we’re just now seeing them. And I doubt giving citizens access to a scary high capacity weapon of war is going to go over well in Congress.
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Old 10-10-2018, 12:21 PM
BobJ50 BobJ50 is offline
 
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Default Patience Grasshopper, patience

I've waited 50 years for another chance at a M1911A1 [since the last release in around 1960]. I will wait to see what happens with the SIGs in the NEXT 50.
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Old 10-11-2018, 11:15 AM
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I qualified several times with a .38Spl revolver in the Navy. I think they were the pistols normally issued to aircrew. For whatever reason, we never qualified with 1911s. Does anyone know what model those revolvers would have been? The Navy had a ton of them and I've wondered why they don't turn up at the CMP or on the surplus market. Some had the tiny wooden grips, and some had the better rubber Pachmyers.
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:47 PM
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In 1989-1990, I was stationed at Camp Bonifas (JSA) in South Korea. I was part of a United Nations company (1st Platoon - Animals) where half the company was ROK (katusa) and the other half U.S. We were all issued 1911s. Three years ago while I was moving I came across my old armory cards. This weekend I'm going to clean out my garage and hopefully find them. In mid 1990 we swapped our 1911s for Berettas. It would be awesome to be reunited with my old 1911.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:24 PM
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In 1989-1990, I was stationed at Camp Bonifas (JSA) in South Korea. I was part of a United Nations company (1st Platoon - Animals) where half the company was ROK (katusa) and the other half U.S. We were all issued 1911s. Three years ago while I was moving I came across my old armory cards. This weekend I'm going to clean out my garage and hopefully find them. In mid 1990 we swapped our 1911s for Berettas. It would be awesome to be reunited with my old 1911.
“In Front of Them All”. I was there in ‘96.
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