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Old 01-14-2016, 06:24 AM
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You're not alone in considering the recoil a bit harsh. I'm not a fan of shooting GP11 from prone or bench. They do kick more than an M1, about like a mosin with heavy ball. GP11 is a rather stout load. Compare to full house 173 grain handloads if you're comparing to Springfield.

Not a problem for me, my 155 grain handload recoils much more mildly and is regulated to my sights at 200 yards. I use a slightly heavier powder charge and 100m of rear sight elevation to regulate for 300m.
Great reloading info. I've been wondering about sight settings when shooting lighter bullets.

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Old 01-14-2016, 06:40 AM
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I currently have two. Both with beech stocks. One had the troop tag under the butt plate. Great triggers and mirror bores. I am still getting used to the open sights ( I do better with rear peep ) but as everyone says, VERY accurate. I love the ergonomics and everyone that sees it remarks at the straight pull bolt. I recently mounted a clamp on scope mount on one but haven't tried it out yet. The offset seems a bit odd but we shall see. Good Shooting!
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:23 AM
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The offset seems a bit odd but we shall see. Good Shooting!
I thought so at first too, got used to it pretty quick. Cheek pad helps some guys line up.
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:54 PM
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Scope?! What is this new fangled glass vision enhancing device y'all speak of on a K31? Kidding of course...I'll try to stay with my iron sites as long as my eyes hold out, but I have to admit I am curious to see just how accurate my Schmidt's could be with a scope cause they are stupid accurate with just the iron sites.
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:38 PM
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Great reloading info. I've been wondering about sight settings when shooting lighter bullets.

Jess
My 200 yard load is reduced about 3 grains from Hornady max load for IMR 4064. 300m load is about 1.5 grains heavier than the 200 yard load. Bullet Nos 155 BTHP. My rifle is about 8" high at 100 with GP11, 3" with the 155 gr 200 yard load.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:29 AM
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Maybe I should try handloading some with 150 gn. bullets and see if that helps it shoot to point of aim at 100 yds.
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Old 01-15-2016, 08:33 AM
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Just some points concisely stated:

a. 175 gr 308 cal. BTHP and RL17 and you can match GP11 ammo.
b. Swiss Products scope mount works perfectly as does the clamp on muzzle brake.
c. 12 inch group shot with hand loads at 1000 yds at Rg 4 Quantico four years ago, have witness who was marking target in pit. Rifle had 2-7x Burris German reticule scope on it. Brass that day was Berdan GP 11 brass with my match load in it.
d. GP11 brass can be easily reloaded with Tula Berdan primers and I find this shoots a hair better accuracy...don't know why. I have used the PRVI 7.5 Swiss brass and like it, its worth getting.
e. With scope off , I use a spare mag for rapid fire events requiring reload.
f. Toss up if 150 gr or 168 gr bullets shoot best at 600 yds and for ranges 600 and below, I'd shoot what is cheaper.
g. I don't bother to shoot my K31 at 100 and 300 yds anymore, waste of ammo, it shoots 175 gr BTHP at 600,800 and 1000 yds.
h. You can PM me and I'll share my match load with 175 gr BTHP.

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Old 01-15-2016, 09:08 AM
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Just some points concisely stated:

a. 175 gr 308 cal. BTHP and RL17 and you can match GP11 ammo.
b. Swiss Products scope mount works perfectly as does the clamp on muzzle brake.
c. 12 inch group shot with hand loads at 1000 yds at Rg 4 Quantico four years ago, have witness who was marking target in pit. Rifle had 2-7x Burris German reticule scope on it. Brass that day was Berdan GP 11 brass with my match load in it.
d. GP11 brass can be easily reloaded with Tula Berdan primers and I find this shoots a hair better accuracy...don't know why. I have used the PRVI 7.5 Swiss brass and like it, its worth getting.
e. With scope off , I use a spare mag for rapid fire events requiring reload.
f. Toss up if 150 gr or 168 gr bullets shoot best at 600 yds and for ranges 600 and below, I'd shoot what is cheaper.
g. I don't bother to shoot my K31 at 100 and 300 yds anymore, waste of ammo, it shoots 175 gr BTHP at 600,800 and 1000 yds.
h. You can PM me and I'll share my match load with 175 gr BTHP.
Nice summary and nice shootin!

Yeah I think if you're shooting competition, 175s are probably ideal but they're like 10-12 cents per bullet more than what I get Nosler 168s for. Again I don't shoot at 1000 yards or competitively so it's not worthwhile for me of course.

Any leads on Berdan primers? Haven't seen those for a couple years.

I haven't tried the bulk 150 gr FMJs in my K31 but I have shot them in my Garand (and yes I know they're not as accurate as a K31) and they didn't shoot all that well at 120 yards. But as soon as I tried the Nosler 168s, my groups tightened up nicely. The extra 2-3 cents for the 168s was well worth it in my opinion.

I wouldn't say it's a waste at distances less than 600 yards. But I know what you're getting at. At 120 yards I could save myself powder and $ and shoot lighter loads with pistol powder that will shoot pretty good. Certainly an option but I got good deals on bullets and powder so I don't mind shooting the good bullets and powder.

Just my $0.02 and your mileage may vary

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Old 01-15-2016, 04:43 PM
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My rifle is about 8" high at 100 with GP11
This is similar to mine. Since I don't have access to a range longer than 100 yds. I need to find a load that will work at that distance. A hold 8" or more off is too big for these old eyes to estimate at 100 yds.

Thanks for the comments.
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Old 01-19-2016, 10:35 AM
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If you find any gp11 buy all you can, I haven't found anything that shoots as well.


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