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Old 06-16-2016, 10:24 AM
jcharlt33@yahoo.com jcharlt33@yahoo.com is offline
 
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Default Curious why P17s go for less than 03's?

I am relatively new to the hobby/sport, having jumped in upon my retirement just one year ago. As I begin to assemble a 20th-century US collection, I've noticed that the P17s consistently sell for about $200 less than the Springfield 03/03A3's, given roughly similar condition. Yet, I understand that there were far fewer P17s manufactured, and they are solid shooters.

I'd welcome any thoughts as to whether this assessment is accurate, and if so, why that might be the case? Thanks...
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:42 AM
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You mean Model 1917 rifles. As to the reason for the price discrepancy maybe because they were used as front line issue only in WWI and then largely unissued and relegated to second class status as the 1903 remained the primary US issue rifle until the adoption of the M-1. For average condition common 03A3's I don't see a lot of difference in the pricing plus lets be honest the Model 1917 is kinda ugly as rifles go.
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:47 AM
jcharlt33@yahoo.com jcharlt33@yahoo.com is offline
 
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Thanks, that makes sense, and I was also theorizing that the "ugly" factor had something to do with it...
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:53 AM
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Default Fwiw...

"I understand that there were far fewer P17s manufactured, and they are solid shooters."

The total number of Model 1917 rifles produced by Winchester, Remington and Eddystone is significantly larger than the total number of Model 1903 rifles ever produced by SA, RIA and RA, not counting the later 03A3 production.

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Old 06-16-2016, 12:22 PM
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http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/sa...0.jpg.html?o=6

ugly ? no
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:29 PM
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Mine are beautiful, and shoot real fine.

I think the cock on close has something to do with some people.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:30 PM
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Saiga - right with you on that - the M1917 has its own classic look to it - I just received a P14 in original condition and it is actually physically larger than the M1917 which was based off of the P14 design.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:35 PM
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The lack of WWII prominence, cock on close and the 'wings' around the rear site definitely had me turned off...until I shot one! Still too heavy really for competitive shooting for me, but man are they tack drivers!

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Old 06-16-2016, 01:04 PM
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Longer and heavier than the lighter sleeker , well balanced 1903 , and the stock/grip design is uncomfortable for many.
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Old 06-16-2016, 01:26 PM
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M1903s are worth $200 more than P17s because York is using a M1903 at 9:18

https://youtu.be/LmRRhxo0RHc?t=450
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