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Old 11-04-2015, 05:49 AM
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The use of rifles and bayonets for riot control ended a LONG time ago.........
So I'm not sure why they ordered them.............
They were free?
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Old 11-05-2015, 12:52 AM
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Maybe the were packaged with the rifles, kind of like BII.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:07 AM
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Under the LESO Program, Law Enforcement Support Office, Departments can purchase or get on loan everything from boots to guns to Humvees.

The State I'm in purchased M16A1 rifles for $25.00 each. They were the early Colt AR15 marked receivers with XM serial numbers. All early features, pretty cool. Armorers converted them over to semi auto for the troopers that requested rifles instead of a shotgun. Of course the early parts were cannibalized by the boys that know what they had and swapped out with new parts. Parts is parts in the collector's world.

Then thru the State Federal Surplus Program, you could buy BDUs, mess kits, blankets, boots of all types, ammo cans by the pallet and so on super cheap. State agency s get next dibs after the Fed agencies.

The great days of cheap or free stuff are over from Uncle Scam. Obama Admin did crack down and put a stop to it. Now stuff is destroyed, scrapped or the innocuous stuff is auctioned off to surplus dealers.
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Old 12-07-2015, 04:08 PM
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The use of rifles and bayonets for riot control ended a LONG time ago.........

So I'm not sure why they ordered them.............
Things may revert back to the old ways once we start to see full scale rioting again. The minor stuff like Ferguson wasn't anything compared to Detroit in July of '67. You haven't seen anything until you see NG tanks and APC's rolling down city streets. I see many things in common today with '67 so it won't be a surprise to me if there is a replay - 50 years later. Rick
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Old 12-19-2015, 12:22 PM
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I don't have a crystal ball so I cant say those things from the 60's couldn't happen but:

-Attitudes towards the Police have changed.
-If Officers have AR's they are the M4 variety....so mounting a bayonet would barely work.
-there is no training or support for bayonet fixed rifles.
-I don't think the laws and policies in place with most PD's would allow for a "Bayonet charge" to clear out rioters.
-The politicians would freak out if that happened.
-The Feds are working on removing all that stuff from Police hands.........which was what the OP brought up.........

But this is sliding into a Political thread so..................

Merry Christmas!

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Old 12-20-2015, 10:07 AM
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What does the PD need with bayonets?
Exactly what I was wondering and I've been in LE for 23 years.
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Old 12-27-2015, 08:57 AM
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Exactly what I was wondering and I've been in LE for 23 years.

Yep, I'm a LEO as well and can't think of a single reason a PD would need or even buy bayonets.

On a side note my department's swat team is issued full auto Mk18 type AR's built on M16A1 lowers. I think most of their optics (Aimpoints) came from Uncle Sam as well.
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Old 12-27-2015, 09:34 AM
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What does the PD need with bayonets?
Crowd control:

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Old 12-27-2015, 06:25 PM
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Nice picture from the 60's.
We are 50 yrs past that................

Any guess as to whose Grand mother that is?

The PD's stopped with the bayonet-fixed rifles about the same time.............

The NG in your picture too................

Helmets don't have liners anymore either...........

The NG is armed with M4's too.............. and they've been turning in their bayonets as well.........which is how the CMP got them........

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Old 12-27-2015, 08:44 PM
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Nice picture from the 60's.
We are 50 yrs past that................

Any guess as to whose Grand mother that is?

The PD's stopped with the bayonet-fixed rifles about the same time.............

The NG in your picture too................

Helmets don't have liners anymore either...........
Probably active duty troops. Most Guard outfits never received M-14s.
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