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There is no question the first rate German soldier was well trained and motivated. While the average casualties inflicted per German soldier was higher than the American and British soldiers, most of those casualties occurred on the Eastern Front.
On the Western Front starting in North Africa then Sicily, Italy and France. The allied forces faced the best and the worst the German Army had to offer. This was especially true at Normandy where there were a number of foreign troops used to fill in the gap.
The Germans never had to face Marine units in combat. Marines were better trained and motivated.
Yes the U.S. Army had a much larger ratio of support troops to infantry troops but that was an advantage. The U.S. arguably won the war in Europe because it had the best support logistics of any other country's military. Everything from bullets to bandag as and men were available in numbers every other nation could only look upon with envy. An example was the M4 Sherman tank. While inferior to Germany's tanks, the U.S. had an unending number of them. By th e anbd of the war in Europe, the Americans upgraded the main gun on the Sherman. The Shgerman tank won its tank battles by sheer numbers and the never ending supply chain of men and material.
The one advantage the U.S. Army had over the German Army and the Japanese Army as well (The Marines had the same advantage). That?advantage was the ability of the military to improvise and adapt. Under the micro management of Hitler hundreds of thousands of German troops were squandered because the unit commanders were forbidden to strategically withdraw. The Japanese were equally saddled with using suicide charges which hundreds of thousands of Japanese military died needlessly.
We're the German Army better trained than their allied counter parts? Initially yes. Many of the early German military were graduates of the German Hitler Youth group which trained the young German adolescents for war instilling discipline and moral courage. As the war progressed, most of these highly trained Hitler Youth were killed, wounded or captured. Many of their replacements were not well trained or equipped. In some cases they weren't even German.
In th he end, Germany lost the war and like your post suggests were too busy patting each other on the back to examine their shortcomings.

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From The Coldest War by James Brady:
Army platoons also have three squads, but the squads aren't broken down into fire teams but remain an unwieldy straggle of ten or a dozen men. There is one other material distinction between marine and army rifle platoons: fire power and the Browning Automatic Rifle. The BAR is a wonderfully steady, fast-firing, very accurate weapon. Each marine fire team is built around the BAR. A marine platoon had nine BARs, the army platoon only three, one to each squad.
If in attempting a comparison, one makes up stuff, almost anything can be proved. The Army's KW rifle squad consisted of 9 men (not 10-12). With both a squad leader and an assistant squad leader, each directed an average of 3.5 men. Is this the huge tactical advantage claimed - 3 vs. 3.5?

Also conveniently omitted is the fact that the Army rifle platoon also had one M1919A6 - USMC had none.

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