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Old 04-27-2017, 04:12 PM
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So I can use my M4 type carbine with flatop, ACOG and troy FF HG, 16" govt. barrel... correct?
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:18 PM
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No FF handguard.
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Old 04-27-2017, 06:21 PM
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No FF handguard.
I see nothing in the rules that says that?
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Old 04-27-2017, 07:28 PM
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Jeremy, My interpretation of the rules is the same as Mike's. "Rifles must be standard production or as-issued rifles with no special accurizing or match conditioning". Since standard production M4's do not have a free floating handguard, use of a free floating handguard would be considered to be "special accurizing or match conditioning". Rick
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:34 PM
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Jeremy, My interpretation of the rules is the same as Mike's. "Rifles must be standard production or as-issued rifles with no special accurizing or match conditioning". Since standard production M4's do not have a free floating handguard, use of a free floating handguard would be considered to be "special accurizing or match conditioning". Rick
Fair enough and I understand that reasoning... now let me ask a different question.

I just grabbed my AR15A4 clone. USGI upper, KAC rail system and ACOG..standard rifle lower...so a "semi" M16A4 rifle.

It weighs 9.0 lbs... according to rule 5.2.3 it can't weigh more than 8.5 lbs.

Is that correct?
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:02 PM
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There is a weight limit....8.5 lbs. You can remove the sling and magazine. Good Shooting. ..
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Old 04-27-2017, 09:08 PM
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There is a weight limit....8.5 lbs. You can remove the sling and magazine. Good Shooting. ..
Well this doesn't make any sense at all....the rules is for modern military weapons ..presumably US weapons are favored...and the weight limit doesn't even allow the standard ISSUED rifle to be used?

C'mon CMP get your crap together...
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:31 AM
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Jeremy, Did you remove the sling and magazine before weighing as Ceresco suggested? Rick
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Old 04-28-2017, 07:36 AM
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. . .Make sure the buttstock compartment is empty. . . fill it with helium if you can. Try removing the aluminum liners inside the handguards. Pistol grip, I used to store stuff in there, had a plug for it.
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Old 04-28-2017, 09:21 AM
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Jeremy, Did you remove the sling and magazine before weighing as Ceresco suggested? Rick
Yes...an "A4" rifle with ACOG is 9.0 on my bathroom scale.
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