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Old 12-31-2013, 12:40 PM
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Default Winchester vs. Korean Gas Cylinders (GCs) - Wide Base only

***** Korea only made wide base GCs. This post only addresses the wide base Winchester and all the Korean GCs. *****

There are some easily recognizable differences and many small ones.

The major differences between the Winchester and all the Korean GCs are;
(1) the lack of bevel (radiused toe) on the bayonet lug of the Winchester.
(2) the step beneath the front site mount on the Winchester.
(3) the surface of the Winchester is generally more porous looking than the Korean, which has a much smoother surface.

Also the Round Barrel Ring Top
- Only Winchester and the Korean GCs had a round barrel ring top as shown in the 2nd picture below.
- The SA, HRA, and IHC barrel rings had a flat area on the top.
- The Winchester was rounded off by manual filing so these filing marks are usually easy to spot.


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Old 12-31-2013, 01:09 PM
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Thanks - how many Korean and WRA GC's did you have in your sample database to make these comparisons?
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:19 PM
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Nice work Robert, should be stickied...........BRB
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Old 12-31-2013, 05:45 PM
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That's endorsement enough! Great to know some of these differences.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:41 AM
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Default WRA bayonet lug

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I have done research on WRA gas cylinders as well and I came across pictures showing that some WRA gas cylinders have a very small bevel on them; I have a Korean as well and the bevel is quite large in comparison. The gas cylinders I have, have the round rear ring, ledge below front sight and other than the very small bevel on the lug they match. I compared it to a narrow base WRA that I got from an M1D off the floor in Anniston and it as well has a very small bevel on the lug. Please advise if WRA did in fact have a very small bevel on the lug. Your help is greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-22-2014, 04:27 PM
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Yes, a small number of WRA GCs have the small bevel. This is mentioned at the bottom of the first picture.
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Old 08-09-2014, 09:17 AM
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I recently read this article and from the excellent pictures and discussion determined that I have one of the Korean GC's on a Winchester I bought in 1994 that at that time was deemed to be original, probably based on the round rear ring. Can you tell me who made the "Korean" GCs: were they made by a company in Korea or is the term used here to denote a M1 used in Korea such as IHC HRA, or SA? I have never to my knowledge seen any discussion of these GCs in any of the GCA journals etc., and would like to know more if possible..Thanks
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:51 AM
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Can you tell me who made the "Korean" GCs: were they made by a company in Korea
I'm sure the Korean GCs were made in South Korea, but anything is possible.

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or is the term used here to denote a M1 used in Korea such as IHC HRA, or SA?
I'm also sure that it is not a term used for any M1 made as a result of the Korean war. Korean GCs were made by South Korea as replacement parts for the M1s that we loaned them.

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I have never to my knowledge seen any discussion of these GCs in any of the GCA journals etc., and would like to know more if possible..Thanks
Dunno, perhaps someone else can help on this.
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:28 PM
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Can you tell me who made the "Korean" GCs:
IF made in Korea, odds are that it was made by Daewoo Precision Industries. Established in 1981, Daewoo (pronounced "Tae-ooh" in Korean) was founded to develop military firearms for the ROK Armed Forces. As the only maker of firearms in South Korea, it stands to reason that they would have made the parts for Garands.
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Old 12-06-2015, 10:33 AM
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I THINK this is a WRA? Narrow base with step below front site, file marks on ring even though it still has some flat spot (don't think this is to uncommon). any opinion?
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