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Old 12-14-2015, 02:58 PM
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223Shooter, given your username, and your interest in cast bullets I gotta ask. Do you shoot cast in AR-15 style rifles chambered for 5.56/223?
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:44 PM
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keeping up with this thread, I am building up a stripped receiver with a 308 barrel I purchased from Jim Thompson. Nothing fancy, just a shooter for cast. Going to give it a try. Been casting and shooting pistol stuff for a good while now.
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:53 AM
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I have been slowly going to cast for all my rifles.
My most recent was a test load for the M1 garand.
My first test load was
165 grain ranch dog mold in the lee tumble lube design. .310"
37 grains of H4895
1968 HXP cases flared with Lee universal flare.
Seated to crimp grove and just crimped enough to remove flare.

My First 8 rounds went darn near dead nuts on windage. My guess on elevation was 6 clicks to low. Came up six clicks and proceeded to put last 6 rounds in the black at 200. That's a fine start for me. Over the winter I'm going to see if a field grade I have with worn action and springs will cycle with a little less powder. Try a 200 grain Lyman bullet I have.
Which shoots ten ring in my 1903a3.
Once I get a load that dances around 3 moa. I'm moving to the AR and M1 carbine cast.
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Old 12-15-2015, 07:04 AM
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223Shooter, given your username, and your interest in cast bullets I gotta ask. Do you shoot cast in AR-15 style rifles chambered for 5.56/223?
No. Am shooting 80 & 77gr Sierra SMKs & Hornaday Amax for F/TR (300yd & 600yd matches).
Tried 25cal and found the small .25cal bullets a hassle to cast. So wouldn't try 22cal
Do, however, cast about 3000 40cal bullets for my. 40-65 for BPCR/BPTR competition and another 500 38cal for my 38-50 for an all off-hand 50/100/150/200m silhouette match we shoot. So adding 30cal won't be a big deal. The big difference will be smokeless rather than BP.

Another question. Has anyone chrony'd their cast bullet loads? How fast are they going? I'm casting 20-1 lead for my BP shooting and am thinking 30-1 would likely be better for the 30cal.
What lube is working for you to prevent leading?

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Old 12-15-2015, 09:41 AM
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Get the excellent Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook and you can forget the chronograph. With most barrels, the gas check and almost any good lube will prevent leading as long as velocities are kept within reasonable limits. I will mention again that 34 grs of 4895 cycled my M1s 100% with bullets from 130 grs and up. The warnings about "leading" the gas system are silly. The "gas system" of a M1 is simple and easily cleaned should it be necessary to remote lead......and your won't ever need to. Good Shooting. ...
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Old 12-16-2015, 09:53 AM
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No. Am shooting 80 & 77gr Sierra SMKs & Hornaday Amax for F/TR (300yd & 600yd matches).
Tried 25cal and found the small .25cal bullets a hassle to cast. So wouldn't try 22cal
Do, however, cast about 3000 40cal bullets for my. 40-65 for BPCR/BPTR competition and another 500 38cal for my 38-50 for an all off-hand 50/100/150/200m silhouette match we shoot. So adding 30cal won't be a big deal. The big difference will be smokeless rather than BP.

Another question. Has anyone chrony'd their cast bullet loads? How fast are they going? I'm casting 20-1 lead for my BP shooting and am thinking 30-1 would likely be better for the 30cal.
What lube is working for you to prevent leading?
I ran some loads of 46 grains of H4831 + poly-fill under a Lee 200RNGC. Cases were HXP primed with CCI large rifle, and were crimped in the crimp groove of the bullet. 10 shot group averaged 2005 fps, but had a wide extreme spread of 111 fps. These were fired from my 1944 Winchester field grade Greek return, wearing Greek wood. I think magnum primers would tighten up that spread as this load leaves unburnt powder in the action.

I lube with felix lube + a blue crayon cause I like blue.
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Old 12-22-2015, 09:38 PM
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Here is a thread i made up in 2011 right before stage 3 cancer hit me,
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=77459
Not only did i use some i gave some away so they could be used in various rifles.
That way they would truly get tested. So far they worked very well in gun used.
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Old 12-22-2015, 09:52 PM
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Also results from one user here in this thread
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=102818
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