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Old 03-21-2010, 06:53 PM
.22shooter .22shooter is offline
 
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Was at an uncle's place this weekend and he showed me an old bucket of ammo he inherited. We started going through and right away I picked out some "goodies"

1) Picked out an M1 garand clip with markings "BR W F" I believe this is a WWII era clip. Can anyone confirm this?
Also found what I believe to be M2 Ball. Markings "RA52" "LC68" Greek? Cleaned 'em up with some brasso and confirmed with a caliper that they are .30-06.

2) Picked out an old one marked "Western" ".30-G-1906." I have my speculations but I'd love to hear yours. My uncle would like to know if its worth anything.

3) (The following is not really related to this forum) Picked out an old 12 ga. paper cased shotgun shell. What is interesting is it has the patent number on it. Again, worth anything?

http://s1007.photobucket.com/albums/...7;20n%20Stuff/


Thanks for your help

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Old 03-21-2010, 07:50 PM
Buggsy Buggsy is offline
 
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Your Western round is a commercial loading of the Western Cartridge Company prior to the early 1920s. Could not really tell much from the photos about the bullet, which might help narrow down the age. I don't collect commercials but perhaps a dollar or so could buy these.

The shotshell is a Western too, I believe, probably late 40's, early 50's. These are pretty common so I would value them at less than a dollar.

I know zip about Garand chargers so I'll leave that to others.
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:45 PM
Edward Ludwig Edward Ludwig is offline
 
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It's not a charger it's a clip
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:49 PM
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RA52 is Remington Arms 1952 and LC68 is Lake City Army Ammunition Plant 1968 manufacture. Both US made not Greek.
"30 G 1906" is the original cartridge made for the U S Rifle 1903 AKA Springfield '03, so 30 Government 1906 was the official nomenclature for 30 caliber Government Rifle of 1906. Not particularly valuable but a collector might spring for a few bucks. It's commercial, not military manufacture. Note the round nose bullet which was the first style quickly replaced by the spitzer nose we are familiar with today.

Hope this information helps. I can't comment on the clip or shotgun shell but I seem to remember in my youth having some shotgun shells like that. Back in the "olden days" as my daughter likes to remind me!
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:43 PM
KRAG-30-40 KRAG-30-40 is offline
 
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"30 G 1906" is the original cartridge made for the U S Rifle 1903 AKA Springfield '03, so 30 Government 1906 was the official nomenclature for 30 caliber Government Rifle of 1906. Not particularly valuable but a collector might spring for a few bucks. It's commercial, not military manufacture. Note the round nose bullet which was the first style quickly replaced by the spitzer nose we are familiar with today.
Not to be nitpicking but,the original cartridge for the M1903 Springfield rifle was the .30 Cal.M1903 cartridge.Slightly different case,a little longer using a 220 grain round nose bullet.Commercial loadings were marked with a .30-03 or .30 Gov't 03 marking.When they changed to the spitzer bullet and the case was altered the Rifle designation was still M1903 but the cartridge was called the .30 Cal M1906, or.30-06 or early commercial production like the one here .30 Gov't 1906.Most all early 03s chambered for the M1903 .30 cal cartridge were rechambered at the time accounting for the rarity of the few rifles that escaped the alteration.I still see Winchester M1895 rifles chambered for the M1903 cartridge.There usually marked .30-03 or .30 Gov't 03.

A great source of confusion is that after the M1903 cartridge faded away commercial rifles in .30-06 were sometimes marked .30 Gov't. and .30-40 Krag chambered rifles were marked .30 U.S. causing confusion among the uninitiated.
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