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Old 01-18-2010, 05:01 PM
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Default M118 Special Ball: Reasonable price for a full can??

What is a reasonable price to sell a can of LC91 M118 Special Ball for??

This is the 173 grain FMJ USGI match bulleted 7.62mm Sniper Ball ammo with sealed primer and bullet.

One can is 460 rounds in 20 round boxes.
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Old 01-19-2010, 07:01 AM
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what it's actually worth compared to Prvi 7.62 "Match" = 75-80 cents each ($350.00)

what reasonable non-already got ammo stashed away, non-reloading buyer on CMP forum might likely feel inclined to pay these days = .90-1.00 each. (say 400.00)

what crazy price I would stick on it at a big show and might likely get = $550.00++

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Old 01-19-2010, 08:59 AM
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Two cans at $9.00 per box......equals, what, .45 cents a round? Not typical, but that's what I gave for it within the last week. Walk in customer who was cleaning out his basement. No, he doesn't have any more. No, what I have isn't for sale.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:02 AM
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$207 per can. Most generous of your shop for your customer. I would guess that's why selling things to gun shops is usually a major loser for the customer.

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Old 01-19-2010, 11:26 AM
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Federal Premium is just as good if not better. Compare the prices and then decide.
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:44 PM
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Special Ball does not carry the price of M118 LR. It seems to bring about $9 to $10 a box. Someone may pay more, but that is a fair price. Always wonder about everthing 308 being "sniper" ammo.

John
Agreed

good reads on LC SB

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=1025578

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...Number=1258914


other info on teh hide as well
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Old 01-19-2010, 05:20 PM
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Special Ball does not carry the price of M118 LR. It seems to bring about $9 to $10 a box. Someone may pay more, but that is a fair price. Always wonder about everthing 308 being "sniper" ammo.

John
your half right anyway.. M118LR would for sure command a higher price.

BUT....selling ANY USGI surplus 7.62, much less (technically) "match/sniper ammo" for 50 cents a round would start a RIOT at any gunshow in America these days.

Not only would "someone" pay more, almosr everyone would buy all you had at this price. I suspect people could sell PAKISTANI POF surplus for 50 cents per round at a big show like Chantilly, VA. Maybe MORE..

(don't believe me, check this out http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/Vie...Item=147116184 )

There is decent 7.62 around for around this price, but it will be from Lithuania or Russia and it won't be boxer primed, have a brass case, etc.


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Old 01-19-2010, 05:28 PM
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Whatever else may be discussed to death, M118 Special Ball was the Geneva Convention legal sniper issued ammo of its day with the 173 grain FMJ USGI Match bullet. M118SB has both sealed primers and a sealed bullet and its intended purpose was combat.

The Sierra bulleted USGI match ammo using the 168 HPBTM bullet is probably more accurate to 800 yards, but then drops subsonic and goes to hello by 900 and 1000. Thus they started using the 175 grain Sierra that holds supersonic through 1000 yards. A later generation allowable for non declared wars on indigenous peoples whose favorite weapon is an IED.

This lot of M118SB is accurate enough that I managed a 562 on a Palma course with it. In any event, it is what it is.

With virtually every commercial 7.62x51mm round today costing $20 and upwards for a box of 20, $9 or $10 for real USGI ammo seems silly. For that sort of price I can store it until I get around to using up my FedMatch 308.

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Old 01-19-2010, 07:19 PM
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M118 Special Ball had nothing to do with the Hague Convention (it's not the Geneva convention that "outlawed" ammunition "designed to expand ..."). The DoD sea-lawyers had already figured out that Sierra MK's were not "designed to expand". It's real raison d'etre was as you said in the second paragraph. A-171 would not reliably remain supersonic past 900 yards.

We (Navy Team) got a bunch of this as practice ammo starting in about 1986. The NALC was the same as "old match", A-136. Some of it was very good, some was so-so. None of it shot as well as A-171 at 600 yards, in my experience.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:29 PM
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None of which suddenly makes it worth only half or a third as much as American Eagle 150 grain FMJBT or Federal GMatch 308M listing in CTD for $15.49 and $24.49 respectively. If they actually have any to ship. Even S&B 147 Ball is $12.19. If shooters wish to pay Wolf prices, then buy Wolf.

I have a feeling as Hugh points out that low ball price quoters haven't actually bought any ammo lately. Or more likely, if they can afford it, they cannot find it to buy.

Hugh, thank you for the insight. With most .223/5.56mm staying at or above $10 a box and with XM193 at $11.49, 7.62mm M118SB is more by a good bit. Or does being neatly packed inside an unopened can make is less?
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