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Old 10-07-2018, 07:02 AM
Tom in N.J. Tom in N.J. is offline
 
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Back in the mid 1960s, when I built my M1 / M14 look alike, the only surplus stocks my supplier had were the T44 type with the M1 butt plate. When folding butt plates came on market, I modified my T44 type to take it. I think I still have the modified one in the 'spares' box. The T44 type resides on my home made M14. The reverse stamping on butt plates came on the market in the 1980s. I'm sure they were imports from Korea. The aluminum butt plate for the 'lightweight' rifle is the rare item


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Old 10-07-2018, 08:30 AM
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Reverse stamped buttplate info:
https://m14forum.com/reference/81853...tt-plates.html
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=202780
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread....ange+buttplate
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:19 AM
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Again,if anyone can lead me to one of these plates i will be much grateful as i want to use it in my 1959 SA clone build,willing to pay finders fee and top dollar for one,anybody out there know of one for sale?
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:27 AM
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Again,if anyone can lead me to one of these plates i will be much grateful as i want to use it in my 1959 SA clone build,willing to pay finders fee and top dollar for one,anybody out there know of one for sale?
Which plate are you looking for? I have unissued aluminum (T44E6) and an unissued steel (T44E4). I do not have the reverse dimple one.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:42 PM
gogs gogs is offline
 
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I am looking for the inverted dimple type,or a late SA post war plate in excellent shape
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Old 10-08-2018, 02:53 PM
KurtC KurtC is offline
 
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This is the only picture I know of showing the plastic spacer. It is from August of 1960.

http://ww2.rediscov.com/springar/full/802-60.A.1..jpg

It is most likely a standard SA M1 Garand buttplate, as used on all of the T44E4 rifles that led up to the M14 (to include the rifles made for Eisenhower in Nov 59).

This one is from April of 59, showing standard dimples.

http://ww2.rediscov.com/springar/full/395-59.1.jpg

The idea has been kicked around that SA eventually ran out of them prior to the flip up plates becoming available and a rush contract of standard style butt plates was produced (the ones with the inverted dimples). However, I have never seen a photograph of a factory rifle with the inverted dimple buttplate.

There has also been speculation that they were late '60s replacement plates for M1's still in service (ARVN or US National Guard). Again, no photographs of the packaging, so the speculation remains.

I will continue to search the SA archives to see if there anything related to the reverse dimple plates.
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Old 10-13-2018, 01:32 AM
gogs gogs is offline
 
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Excellent info and pictures Kurt,im still on the hunt for either a late SA post war M1 plate or the inverted M1 plate,anyone have either they want to sell let me know.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:20 AM
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My my, how times have changed. In about 2010 I sold my last one to our good gun buddy, Blacktail 8541, for $65.00 shipped, in excellent condition, with the butt plate.

But I was also, only paying $450 to $550 for new in the box Norinco and Polytech rifles too.....Oh well, live and learn.
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Old 10-17-2018, 05:01 PM
7,62x51mm 7,62x51mm is offline
 
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Default years ago, I found some M1 butt plates that were converted

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Old 10-17-2018, 07:36 PM
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I have had this for quite a while, it is actually made out of rubber, not plastic.



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