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Old 04-26-2016, 06:11 AM
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What would be the problem using plated bullets?
Plated bullets are not considered "jacketed". The copper layer is much thinner than a real jacket, so much so that you use load data for lead bullets for them. They are generally not accurate enough for the 50 yard line.
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:26 AM
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Are there many who still come out and shoot USGI M1911A1's? If Ican swing going to the New England Games, I'll shoot the pistol match with my 1944 Ogden Arsenal Remington Rand rebuild.
It would be legal for the Service Pistol EIC, but probably not as competitive as a match-conditioned pistol at the 50 yard target. So maybe an outright win would be tough, but it could absolutely bring in leg points. Most pistols are accurate enough to clean the 25 yard line targets, and will hold black on the 50 yard target. That's good enough for Service Pistol leg points.

Your gun would also definitely be competitive in the As-Issued and M&P games matches.

I've never seen a real M1911A1 that hadn't had adjustable sights put on it in a match in the MD-VA area, but that's probably just because they cost as much as a brand new match accurate 1911 now.
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:33 AM
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What would be the problem using plated bullets?
It's against what is left of the rules.
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:40 AM
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Any suggestions on what type/brand/weight of jacketed bullet that is good for the 50 yard line?
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Old 04-26-2016, 06:55 AM
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Any suggestions on what type/brand/weight of jacketed bullet that is good for the 50 yard line?
For 45? Gold standard is Nosler or Zero 185 GR Jacketed Hollow Points.
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Old 04-26-2016, 07:00 AM
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The other thing with plated bullets is I could swear they come apart. A new shooter at our league was using them and he had bits of copper plate stuck in his 25 yard target. No target frame strikes. Maybe he overcrimped the rounds? In any event, not good.
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Old 04-26-2016, 07:05 AM
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What would be the problem using plated bullets?
It's simple, the rules state only Jacketed bullets. Plated bullets are not jacketed, they have a copper wash on them.
https://firearmsreport.wordpress.com...keted-bullets/
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Old 04-26-2016, 07:11 AM
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The other thing with plated bullets is I could swear they come apart. A new shooter at our league was using them and he had bits of copper plate stuck in his 25 yard target. No target frame strikes. Maybe he overcrimped the rounds? In any event, not good.
Sounds like he used data for jacketed bullets, rather than lead. The guy at OKC got caught because the bullet holes at 25 yards were clean, no typical ring like a jacketed bullet leaves when it hits the target and they cut a hole like a wadcutter. He was using X-treme 200 grains SWC's.
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Old 04-26-2016, 08:42 AM
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bpm32: Thanks for the information. I have some Nosler 185's and will give them a try. By the way, I used to live in Calvert Co, but left in 1981. Bruce J.
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Old 04-26-2016, 08:56 AM
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bpm32: Thanks for the information. I have some Nosler 185's and will give them a try. By the way, I used to live in Calvert Co, but left in 1981. Bruce J.
MD is actually a great place to shoot Bullseye (ironically, given the gun laws)--plenty of matches and leagues.

For those Noslers the accuracy loads are usually given as 4.1-4.3 GR VV N310 or 4.5 GR Bullseye. That's for the 50 yard line. You can go lower for short line without any noticeable loss of accuracy. There are a bunch of other powders you can use, but N310 and Bullseye are the ones everyone seems to agree on.
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