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Old 11-19-2009, 05:10 AM
luvmygarand luvmygarand is offline
 
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Default is it possible to mount scope on M44 using peep sight holes?

Does anyone know of a way to install a scope on an M44US if its doesn't have the factory scope mounting holes? I don't want to drill and tap it for one of Havlins mounts if I don't have to. Maybe something to mount with the peep sight mounting holes? Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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Old 11-19-2009, 09:55 AM
edlmann edlmann is online now
 
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Does anyone know of a way to install a scope on an M44US if its doesn't have the factory scope mounting holes? I don't want to drill and tap it for one of Havlins mounts if I don't have to. Maybe something to mount with the peep sight mounting holes? Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
This post says that you can using this mount:



What I can't get is anyone to tell me where to find one!
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:30 AM
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Looks home-made to me. By that I mean Someone took an existing Weaver side mount and milled away the front 2/3s. My guess is it's a Weaver #1 side mount. If you don't use too heavy a scope, it should work fine. Midway, Gander Mountain, or a well equiped local gun shop should have them.
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Old 11-19-2009, 01:12 PM
ss123 ss123 is offline
 
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Default Coped this off web, hope to helps.

I put this on my 6 digit US Property 44US. I got mine long before the CMP took over from the DCM. This sounds like a lot of work but after you get the parts and look at them it is pretty easy. I put mine on in 01 and haven't lost zero setting yet
Just take it easy and you will be ok. Let me know how it works out for you. If I can be of any help let me know. If I can firgure out how to send a pic I'll post one.

Here are the instructions in full detail
Date: Saturday, 30 June 2001, at 9:37 p.m.
I purchased my weaver scope mount parts at a local gun store. I decided to shop
local so I could see the mounts first hand, and even took my M44 with me so I
could dry fit several different mounts. I listed a price of $50 retail. On-line
prices may be less.

here are the instructions

Weaver #1 side mount #48401
Weaver #49340 Long side ring mount
10-32 X 3/8" socket head cap screws(screws will need to be shortened)
1) Using a 13/64 drill bit, drill out both rear screw holes on #1 mount to
accomodate #10 screws(the mount is drilled for #8).
2) Hold #1 mount on side of receiver with hand. line up rear hole on #1 mount
with rear sight screw hole on M44.
Kind of eyball and scribe a mark where stock curves up and touches #1 side
mount. This is approx. how long your cut needs to be. I had to cut high enough
that I was along top edge of forward screw holes on #1 mount. Length of cut will
vary depending on countour of stock. Using a hacksaw, or dremel tool with thin
cut-off disc, Cut off bottom of #1 mount. Start cutting at Front of mount
towards rear, and stop at the mark you scribed. cut up from bottom and remove
the forward bottom piece. Aluminium heats up a lot. you may have to stop several
times to dissipate heat build up in mount. Dry fit #1 side mount holding with
hand. Use a flat file to smooth edges and custom trim any high spots which come
into contact with stock. You should have a visible gap between stock, and new
forward bottom edge of #1 mount.

3) REMOVE BOLT FROM M44!!(THE SCREWS ARE TOO LONG AT THIS POINT)
Using dremmel tool with 1/8" diameter milling bit, elongate one hole on #1 side
mount to line up with sight srew hole on M44(Factory drilled holes on #1 side
mount do not line up with M44 rear sight screw holes). Dry fit on M44 using
10-32 X 3/8" socket head cap screws. Both screws should screw in easy. If not
elongate hole a few thounsanths more. Attach #1 side mount to M44 using 10-32 X
3/8" socket head cap screws.

4)Once you have #1 side mount mounted on M44, and both screws tightened down,
look inside receiver. You should see a couple of threads of each screw extending
into receiver where bolt rides. This is how much you need to trim off of 10-32 x
3/8" cap screws.
Remove 10-32 X 3/8" cap screws from M44. Hold head of cap screws in vice grips.
Using dremel tool with drum sander, trim off a couple of threads from end of
10-32 X 3/8" cap screws. Run cap screws through a 10-32 die to chase threads.
Re-install #1 side mount with trimmed down 10-32 cap screws, and inspect inside
receiver to be sure the end of screws do not protrude trough receiver where bolt
rides. If needed remove 10-32 cap screws, sand down a couple thosandths more,
chase treads with 10-32 die, and re-install #1 side mount. Keep doing this until
you can visibly see the cap screws do not protrude into receiver where bolt
rides.

Finally install #1 side mount, #49340 long side ring mount, and scope. You are
now ready to go to the range and sight in your M44 with scope, and you did'nt
have to drill any new holes in your M44 U.S.
This works great. I did this on both my M44s. Aslo the empty weaver boxes are a
great place to store your rear sights, original rear sight screws, and even the
.22 short screw adapter from your Magazines(purchased from Havlin sales of course).
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:06 PM
luvmygarand luvmygarand is offline
 
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Thank you!-All those who contribute to the forums, and take the time out to share their knowledge and experience with others. Its much appreciated! I can't tell you how many questions I have had answered just by reading the posts.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:26 AM
joe wilson joe wilson is offline
 
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Here are a couple more pictures of the above rifle, courtesy of "LT":

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...SCN12391-1.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2.../DSCN12381.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...e/DSCN1246.jpg
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...e/DSCN1251.jpg
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:32 PM
luvmygarand luvmygarand is offline
 
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Thumbs up Thank you

Ordered the parts from Midway yesterday. For anyone else who may be interested- Midway # 340963-$31.49, and 574071-$13.49. Thanks again to all who keep these forums going.The best group of people on the net!
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:14 AM
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luvmygarand, please post pics when you complete your scope mount. thanks
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:28 AM
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So, the setup above will center a 1" scope over the barrel?
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Old 01-23-2017, 05:31 PM
rob30-06 rob30-06 is online now
 
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Default Great help - thanks

Lot's of good help here guys.
Thanks a bunch.
I will share with you the end results my buddy gets on his 44US

Rob
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