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Old 03-08-2018, 08:07 AM
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Howdy all. I recently picked up a 250 round belt of AP/Tracer in a can with repack slip. All of the tracers have been pulled along with a few of the AP. The headstamp on the AP's is SL 43. I really am not familiar with tracers (nor AP for that matter), but thought I'd like to seek out 50 rounds of tracers just to make the belt complete again. What should I look for in terms of the headstamp? Would it be the same as the AP?
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Old 03-08-2018, 11:43 AM
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on the AP indicates manufacture at the Saint Louis ammunition plant in 1943. The ammunition may or may not have been belted originally with tracers of the same manufacture, but as WW2- produced ammunition, would almost certainly have been belted with tracers of the same year. The repack date should tell you the latest date which could have been included at the time, and the tracers could have been of later manufacture than the AP, since tracers deteriorate in storage, and ammunition can be repacked for various reasons.

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Old 03-08-2018, 07:31 PM
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On the line item for tracers on the repack slip, it says TR. M1 LOT SL 7811. The slip itself is dated DEC 1943. Which is also the same year that all of the AP is headstamp are. So does that tell me I need SL 43 headstanped tracers then too to be “correct”?

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Old 03-08-2018, 08:31 PM
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You will need .30 M1 Tracer with the red tip. The .30 M25 Tracer with orange tips was not adopted until July, 1945.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:35 PM
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On the line item for tracers on the repack slip, it says TR. M1 LOT SL 7811. The slip itself is dated DEC 19343. Which is also the same year that all of the AP is headstamp are. So does that tell me I need SL 43 headstanped tracers then too to be “correct”?
You want SL 43 headstamped red tip tracers...
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Old 03-08-2018, 09:06 PM
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Thanks all!
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:29 PM
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It would be cheaper to get some red nail polish or paint if they are just for display. I do that when I make up some small belts of 50 caliber to give to WWII vets.
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Old 03-16-2018, 10:52 PM
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I have some M1 liberated from a MG belt some years ago. Not sure which AAP it is, but Saint Louis is a possibility. Looks decent from the outside but the light rate on it is zero. If interested, PM and I will dig around. 50 rounds you say?
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:22 AM
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I have some M1 liberated from a MG belt some years ago. Not sure which AAP it is, but Saint Louis is a possibility. Looks decent from the outside but the light rate on it is zero. If interested, PM and I will dig around. 50 rounds you say?
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:51 AM
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50 tracers with headstamp SL 43 is indeed what I’d be after. These won’t get shot so light rate isn’t a concern. I have been, and will continue to search for a while. If I end up not finding what I need to complete the belt I may put these up and have one less iron in the fire.

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I have some M1 liberated from a MG belt some years ago. Not sure which AAP it is, but Saint Louis is a possibility. Looks decent from the outside but the light rate on it is zero. If interested, PM and I will dig around. 50 rounds you say?

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