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Old 11-22-2020, 09:36 PM
champ0608 champ0608 is offline
 
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Default What are these "S" stamps on my 03 C stock?

Anyone know what these "S" stamps are? Stock was made in 1940.

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Old 11-22-2020, 11:07 PM
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The "S" stamps are probably a rack location marking.

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Old 11-23-2020, 11:49 AM
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:04 PM
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How do you date this particular stock to 1940 manufacture?

Your photo link wouldn't open for me.

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Anyone know what these "S" stamps are? Stock was made in 1940.

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Old 11-23-2020, 07:34 PM
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How do you date this particular stock to 1940 manufacture?

Your photo link wouldn't open for me.
By at least 1935, Springfield was stamping in the magazine cutoff recess an inspector initial, and a single digit. The digit represented the last number of the year of manufacture. In this case a "0" representing 1940.

I know experts here have documents stating when this started, but I haven't seen the documents with my own eyes.
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:41 PM
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So, you are saying that the stock on this 1937 National Match rifle is a 1940 stock and not correct for a 1937 NM rifle????

https://imgur.com/a/bhjenoy

I would like to see these documents. Can someone on here, reading this thread upload some copies/documents?

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By at least 1935, Springfield was stamping in the magazine cutoff recess an inspector initial, and a single digit. The digit represented the last number of the year of manufacture. In this case a "0" representing 1940.

I know experts here have documents stating when this started, but I haven't seen the documents with my own eyes.
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:06 PM
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So, you are saying that the stock on this 1937 National Match rifle is a 1940 stock and not correct for a 1937 NM rifle????

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Yes and no.

Springfield did offer a service at the time where National Match rifles could be sent back to Springfield to be fully refurbished. It included brand new stocks, barrels, finishing, polishing, etc. Whatever was necessary to get the rifle back up to snuff. I've read this was very, very common.

Its possible that rifle was sent back and received a new stock. That would even explain if that stock were numbered to the rifle.

Its also possible that I'm entirely wrong.
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:16 PM
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And legends and myths are born......So many variables. Would still like to see those documents.

As a matter of fact, the butt stock IS serialed to the receiver. It's not my rifle. Was on GunBroker and I just saved all the pics for reference. I do have an SRS documented 1932 1903A1 NM rifle. Stock is serialed to the receiver and is DAL cartouched, but I do not have a close up of the cut-off recess.

I have read that many of the NM rifles used/issued by the Army at matches were rebuilds of previous rifles. The number civilian shooters returning their private rifles
for rebuild/refurb will never be known, I suspect.

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Yes and no.

Springfield did offer a service at the time where National Match rifles could be sent back to Springfield to be fully refurbished. It included brand new stocks, barrels, finishing, polishing, etc. Whatever was necessary to get the rifle back up to snuff. I've read this was very, very common.

Its possible that rifle was sent back and received a new stock. That would even explain if that stock were numbered to the rifle.

Its also possible that I'm entirely wrong.

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Old 11-23-2020, 09:17 PM
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Trying to find good references, and of course I'm coming up blank at the moment, however I do see an auction for a 1939 NM rifle state: "According to Joe Poyer's book, The M1903 Springfield Rifle and its Variations, Springfield Armory produced 28,907 National Match rifles, and completed a reconditioning service offered for those rifles 25,377 times. According to Poyer this process was often simple refinishing work, commonly included replacing worn out star gauged barrels or oil saturated stock, and beginning in 1937 included the drilling of the newly adopted gas escape hole on the left side of the receiver."
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Old 11-23-2020, 09:37 PM
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This is from the USMCweaponry website:

"The 7 that both rifles have in the magazine cutoff well indicates the year they would have left Springfield Armory, both being sent to the Marines in the 1937 shipment of National Match rifles"

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