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Old 08-07-2018, 11:19 AM
Hbus1300 Hbus1300 is offline
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IMO the new cases and shipping cardboard both are absolute trash.

Issues with the Cardboard
-Not thick enough to protect the case at all, previous green case cardboard was a better quality.

Issues with the Case
-Latches don't stay latched in shipping

-Because of poor case design the ends of the case open allowing the muzzle to protrude out of the case during shipping

-The foam isn't thick enough to keep the rifle from moving around in the case, they know this which is evident by the extra chunks of foam they're using around the receiver and muzzle in an attempt to stabilize things

-It seems the plastic itself is mickey mouse as I had one that the muzzle broke through the case and actually protruded through the cardboard picking up a few dings in the process.

The CMP needs to do a better job protecting the rifles. The new cases might survive a trip to the range, but they're not suitable for shipping. I received some field grade rifles and was upset, I can only imagine my frustration with a nicer rifle shipped in this manner.

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Old 08-09-2018, 12:58 PM
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Sounds like the old heavy cardboard shipping boxes were better than this.
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Old 08-10-2018, 01:19 AM
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Sounds like the old heavy cardboard shipping boxes were better than this.
Yes, they were. The new cases are flimsy.
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Old 08-21-2018, 07:01 PM
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I had a post or two removed in this thread for something ? Anyone know why ?
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:16 AM
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This is tiresome. That's enough of the obsessive, personal vendetta attacks, especially when you do not have, or even try to understand the facts before you post these false accusations and continue to hijack other's threads.

Do not post in this thread again.

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Old 08-23-2018, 06:26 AM
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Here is a thought:
CMP, trying to maximize operating efficiency, needs to ship rifles. They have negotiated an extremely low shipping rate, and, faced with the next part of the process, need a packing method. A foam-lined cardboard box has a fixed cost and most likely a good amount of data related to % of items damaged in transit based on CMP's use in the past. They also have used a low end plastic case enclosed in a cardboard box, like today's method, or the prior green case.
Perhaps their ONLY goal is the lowest overall shipping cost, factoring in these 3 items: Cost of shipping (and any associated lowered insurance based on this lowered cost), cost of packaging, and overall damage (which means replacement) rate.
If this method costs the least, yet a few of the plastic cases are damaged/destroyed, that seems like a win. Delivering the customer a plastic case is not the measured goal here.
So far in this and other threads I have seen examples where the shipping caused damage to the case, but I don't recall any damage to the rifle? Many people consider that a "win"; the case did as CMP wanted; took the damage while protecting the contents? And many wind up with a free, low end plastic rifle case as well. Sacrificial packaging is a thing, at least in the business world, oh, DOD, Government, whatever.
To many, the shipping cases are like coat hangers; I'm sure there are threads in the marketplace with people offering to give them away.

Nah, I'm sure they didn't put this kind of thought to shipping.....
JH
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:51 PM
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Here is a thought:
CMP, trying to maximize operating efficiency, needs to ship rifles. They have negotiated an extremely low shipping rate, and, faced with the next part of the process, need a packing method. A foam-lined cardboard box has a fixed cost and most likely a good amount of data related to % of items damaged in transit based on CMP's use in the past. They also have used a low end plastic case enclosed in a cardboard box, like today's method, or the prior green case.
Perhaps their ONLY goal is the lowest overall shipping cost, factoring in these 3 items: Cost of shipping (and any associated lowered insurance based on this lowered cost), cost of packaging, and overall damage (which means replacement) rate.
If this method costs the least, yet a few of the plastic cases are damaged/destroyed, that seems like a win. Delivering the customer a plastic case is not the measured goal here.
So far in this and other threads I have seen examples where the shipping caused damage to the case, but I don't recall any damage to the rifle? Many people consider that a "win"; the case did as CMP wanted; took the damage while protecting the contents? And many wind up with a free, low end plastic rifle case as well. Sacrificial packaging is a thing, at least in the business world, oh, DOD, Government, whatever.
To many, the shipping cases are like coat hangers; I'm sure there are threads in the marketplace with people offering to give them away.

Nah, I'm sure they didn't put this kind of thought to shipping.....
JH
This. No real need for the case for most of us I would think. Whatever helps CMP further the mission is good medicine.
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Old 08-23-2018, 02:56 PM
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Ah jus' break out the Gorilla Tape and the case will be as good as new.....
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Old 09-10-2018, 02:23 PM
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As tempting as it is to advocate for no cases, we probably need to keep in mind that the majority of CMP customers likely do not ever come to the forum (or even know it exists). Many (most?) customers probably buy one rifle and that's it, so maybe a wider net should be cast when determining the desired packaging options. Just a thought ...
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Old 09-10-2018, 04:41 PM
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Personally I have never had a CMP shipping problem. In all my years of having a C&R license , I can't think of another vendor who ships their rifles as well packed. I certainly have sen much worse from names that shall remain un-spoken. With that being said ..... I am aware that if the CMP or anyone else shipped their rifles encased in concrete under armed guard ...... there would still be shipping damages ..................that's life , sort of like taxes.
To be frank , I'll buy another M1 just to get what ever new case they end up using ..... I'm weird like that
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