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Old 06-26-2011, 07:16 PM
Hawky Hawky is offline
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I guess you're an expert in temper tantrums, too.
I could not care any less if you want to blow you face off but I try to give newcomers warning that opinions are like a$$holes - everybody is entitled to one.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:16 PM
Sport45 Sport45 is offline
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Mil-spec just means it meets the military's minimum standards. I remember when the occasional military convoy came through town. The convoy moved slow (as you would expect) and I understand they planned on about 30% of the vehicles breaking down along the way. Really didn't say much for mil-spec vehicles anyway.

I'm sure there's an accepted failure rate for primers to make mil-spec as well. The commercial market is probably more demanding as citizens are more likely to let emotions enter their purchasing decisions.
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Old 06-29-2011, 01:02 AM
DaveHH DaveHH is offline
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Default I've sat on this for a couple of days

Hawky: ever seen someone's face blown off by using regular primers? You are talking out of your a$$hole. Just accept that these primers are the scam that they are and that you are preaching what you have heard and not what you have experienced.
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Old 07-03-2011, 09:32 PM
precision40 precision40 is offline
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Enough!!! Both of you need to knock it off or this one is done.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:33 AM
mac1911 mac1911 is offline
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for what it is worth
I have used the CCI 41s in my carbine with no issues
I have also used CCI SR primers
Currently I am useing the WOLF brand primers that are advertised for the 5.56 which they describe as a SR magnum primer with a slightly harder cup
All work well, all crony around 1900fps with my largest deviation being 12fps
14.5 grains of 296
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:39 PM
brandy12 brandy12 is offline
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Wolf small mag primer. Works great. Any primer will work. Everything else is just opinion and emotion. The load is under 15 grains normally it doesn't take much.
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Old 10-03-2015, 08:48 AM
daboone daboone is offline
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CCI Numbers 34 and 41 are designed with thicker cups. Thus they are designed for semi or full auto rifles. That said I've never used them in the 30 years reloading for the M1. More critical than primer cup thickness is the primer pocket prep and the seating depth of the primer. Also it doesn't hurt to disassemble the bolt or have a gunsmith check it to assure it is functioning properly. I've had to replace parts in both the Rockola an the Inland. After I switched to 2400 I've only used SRP. 2400 meter as well as H110 or 296 but isn't as exact grain sensitive as the H110 & 296. I've also tried IMR4227 and Lit Gun but went back to 2400 as its performance is so consistent.
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Old 10-03-2015, 12:58 PM
dcat dcat is offline
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Quite a necro-post from the past.

I do have two observations:
1. Postings on this forum were as salty in 2011 as they are in 2015.

2. No opinion regarding CCI mil-spec primers but the Winchester SRP is purpose-built for igniting small rifle charges of WW296 or H110 or H335 or similar ball powders.
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Old 10-03-2015, 06:41 PM
bigedp51 bigedp51 is online now
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Remington ran Lake City Army Ammunition plant from 1941 until 1985 and during that time the CCI 41 and 34 mil-spec had not been invented yet. Remington during that time loaded .30 carbine ammunition at Lake City with the 6 1/2 primer in the .30 carbine ammunition.

Bottom line, Remington from 1941 till 1985 followed by Winchester from 1985 till 2001 didn't use thicker primer cups when they ran Lake City. And both the M14 and M16 rifles had the firing pins lightened to prevent slamfires after field testing. In both cases the slamfires happened when single loading a round in the chamber "without" the magazine in the rifles to slow down bolt velocity.

Below, any primer with a cup thickness of .025 is good enough to be used in a semiauto rifle with a free floating firing pin.

Do any of you actually think that Remington or Winchester is going to load contract ammunition for the military with CCI #41 or #34 primers
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Old 10-03-2015, 06:50 PM
Vic in Va Vic in Va is offline
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I've not loaded nearly as much .30 Carbine ammo as I have .30-06, but all that I have loaded has been with CCI #400.

All have went "bang".
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