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Old 08-31-2019, 09:19 PM
tmark tmark is offline
 
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Default Buffalo Arms Barrel on M1 Carbine

I've seen pics of BA barrels stamped Buffalo Arms with date (year) around the barrel near the muzzle as is typical of other manufacturer's mark.

But I have a BA barrel on my SG carbine that is stamped BA parallel with the barrel (turned ninety degrees) near the muzzle with no date (year). I use to know what that meant. Can anyone re-educate me on what that means?

Is my barrel an early BA barrel, that is, pre 1943 BA barrel?
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:59 PM
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tmark, I think that Buffalo Arms was an importer and that is import mark. They do deal in surplus and other arms and parts.
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Old 09-01-2019, 04:15 AM
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Buffalo Arms did use the BA marking during production. It is shown in both Reisch's book and in War Baby. I can't find anything that references when that specific marking was used. Perhaps someone with more experience will chime in. My guess is that it was an early production - they were awarded a contract under the Free Barrel Program in February 1943 so it would have been sometime in early '43.
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Old 09-01-2019, 11:24 AM
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When in doubt, go here

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/barrels.html

about halfway down the page

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Old 09-01-2019, 02:14 PM
Robert C. Lovell Robert C. Lovell is offline
 
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Well that is not the only time I have been wrong. Sorry about that.
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Old 09-01-2019, 05:29 PM
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CCNL 84-5 says that the undated sideways BA marked barrels were the earliest production Buffalo Arms Barrel and have been reported on Saginaw S'G' (Grand Rapids) carbines. It says that the BA undated barrels were early on in the S'G' production serial # range 1790xxx-1875xxx. Can't seem to narrow down a sure usage date.
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:14 PM
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Well that is not the only time I have been wrong. Sorry about that.
No problem, Robert! I've been there; done that too......too many times!

Even though I've read your interesting and informative literary masterpiece twice, I forgot......Did you carry a M1 carbine in your halftrack or a Garand or a 45 caliber pistol? And if you carried the carbine, did you note which manufacturer?

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Old 09-01-2019, 09:15 PM
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When in doubt, go here

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/barrels.html

about halfway down the page

Excellent website that I book marked. Thank you!
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:27 PM
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CCNL 84-5 says that the undated sideways BA marked barrels were the earliest production Buffalo Arms Barrel and have been reported on Saginaw S'G' (Grand Rapids) carbines. It says that the BA undated barrels were early on in the S'G' production serial # range 1790xxx-1875xxx. Can't seem to narrow down a sure usage date.
Harrison says my Grand Rapids S'G' receiver of 1796XXX dates between March and Sept of 43. He shows a sn range 1,762,520 - 1,875,039 within these dates.

I appreciate and give more credence to your data source than Harrison whose book I've found many errors.
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:30 PM
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Thank you all for your responses.
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