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Old 10-18-2011, 12:27 PM
Finch Finch is offline
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spikes tactical ? Larue?

There are a lot of small time gun manufacturers if we needed a ton of M16's we could contract out.

not sure i'd want to be the guy storming berlin stuck with a Del-ton
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:54 PM
captaincalc captaincalc is offline
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AND we have robotics that are real tough to beat. Fast and real fine work possibilities.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:15 PM
DaveHH DaveHH is offline
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Default The defense Contractors of today

build $500K missiles and gizmos that do wonderful things but cost a fortune. They hire Filipinos to serve hot dogs and macaroni and cheese at $5 a plate instead of good nutritious food from a mess hall. Many, many are just doing studies, running computer programs to trace money, calls and finding creative ways to loot other countries. Booze Allen, Bearing Point etc.

I absolutely doubt that this country could make 6M carbines in 2.5 years today. Modern business is focused on the fast buck, creative tax laws, advertising and exploiting cheap foreign labor. Attention to detail which would be essential to the project, is missing from modern American business. They don't even talk to their customers anymore because they know that their products and service are so bad, all that is offshored to India and the PIs.

During WW2, the companies focused on their own capabilities and potential and looked at the long haul. They valued the potential of what they had and adapted that potential in directions that helped the war effort, not necessarily to maximize profits.

When we out source basic infrastructure work like bridges and buy heavy equipment from China, the deficiencies that we have are made clear.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:25 PM
mkrad mkrad is offline
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Well, they exist in the current offerings by HK in Germany (the 416 that was used to kill Bin Laden) and the same piston-driven axe produced in the good old US of A, by LMT (Lewis Machine Tools) models in .308 and 5.56 from the folks in Milan, Illinois.
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:45 PM
MNCop MNCop is offline
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America could no longer be the "Arsenal of Democracy" Our companys only care about profit and selling to the highest bidder. We no longer have the steel making capacity or the raw manufacturing capability. We can't do what made us the saving grace of WWI and WWII.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:00 PM
Jon Jon is offline
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Originally Posted by 22mike View Post
Who would build M1 Carbines today if we needed them for another world war ???
We wouldn't need to build anymore. We have enough of them out there already.

What concerns me though is this "Can't Do" attitude that many here are
spouting. What in the heck happened to "American Can Do Pride"!

Semper Fi,

There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:08 PM
OfficerObie59 OfficerObie59 is offline
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Originally Posted by meplat View Post
The carbine is really an antiquated firearm. Really would you want be armed with a "curio" or a "relic" in the next World War?
Hey for what it worth, a newly manufactured M1A1 would be considered an "assault weapon" in the freedom-loving republics of California and Massachusetts.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:48 PM
microwaveguy microwaveguy is offline
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In the bigger picture today it wouldn't be M1 carbines but M4's.
The biggest bottleneck would be the barrels. CNC"s can crank out lowers easy enough but barrels take more specialized machinery.

6.5mil M4's in 2.5 years is really possible.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:54 PM
cdr1_38fa cdr1_38fa is offline
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We could produce 10 million carbines so fast your head would spin. Many here don't seem to understand that our country's productive capabilities exceed that of the rest of the world combined. but why do we need any carbines? We have the bomb. I'm an advocate of killing the enemy country from a distance. Let someone else clean up the mess they start! the only two things we lack today are a spine and perseverance.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:31 AM
TSimonetti TSimonetti is online now
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My guess is that they would be assembled in the USA. Where the parts would come from however is anyone's guess.
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