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Old 03-21-2019, 04:01 PM
IndianaRailroader IndianaRailroader is offline
 
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Default Partial Clip Ejection After 3rd Round

Today I took one of my rifles with me to the range, which was the first time I have shot it this year. The rifle is IHC 4538598. Last fall I replaced the clip latch spring because it was ejecting the clip after the second round without fail, figuring that would fix the problem. Today, it was partially ejecting the clip after the third round. Could the problem be something with the follower? The rifle is properly cleaned and lubricated and shoots very well for the rounds that it does fire and single loading. I'm sort of lost and wondering if anyone else had experienced a similar problem after replacing the clip latch spring and what it was determined to be.

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Old 03-21-2019, 04:10 PM
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Try swapping out the bullet guide.
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:35 PM
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Enbloc, bullet guide or the clip latch itself.
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:43 PM
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I tried both new production and GI enblocs today, same result. I'll look at my spare parts and see what I have to start swapping out one at a time.
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Old 03-21-2019, 05:00 PM
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Bullet Guide
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Old 03-21-2019, 09:13 PM
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Today, it was partially ejecting the clip after the third round.
Thanks for any info or suggestions.
It could be any one of a number of things -
Worn cartridge clip detents. Replace the cartridge clip.
Weak clip latch spring. Replace the clip latch spring.
Worn clip latch. Replace the clip latch.
Bent follower rod or worn follower rod forks. Replace the follower rod.
Worn follower arm. Replace the follower arm.
Worn or deformed operating rod catch or bullet guide. Replace the faulty part.
Follower rod rubs on operating rod catch. Replace the deformed part — follower rod, clip latch, or operating rod catch.
Not mentioned is if it's new wood. A new stock might not be properly inletted and can bind on the oprod, oprod catch, follower arm, etc.
Here's a place to start.
https://m1-garand-rifle.com/garand-troubleshooting.php

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Old 03-21-2019, 10:49 PM
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It's in the stock it came with from rebuild in 1965. The clip latch spring has already been replaced, that was my first idea. I do have spare parts, when I get the chance, I'll swap them around one at a time and see what cures it, if anything.
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Old 03-22-2019, 12:57 AM
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It's in the stock it came with from rebuild in 1965. The clip latch spring has already been replaced, that was my first idea. I do have spare parts, when I get the chance, I'll swap them around one at a time and see what cures it, if anything.
If the stock is real tight, look for spots where the oprod catch, the follower arm, the follower rod or even the bullet guide might be compressing the wood. I had the same problem and swapped out several parts (the accelerator on the oprod catch had gone AWOL), until I discovered the underlying cause. The stock was so tight that it was binding on the oprod catch and preventing the clip from locking in place securely. Inserting a clip was a bear. Anything that binds on those parts can cause this problem. Check the bullet guide as well to see if it pinches the follower arm.
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Old 03-22-2019, 04:29 AM
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Once again, bullet guide. If you dont have a spare measure the lobe with a Micrometer and report back. Dont randomly start swapping parts
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Old 03-22-2019, 05:37 AM
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Last fall I asked a CMP armorer about this, a friends recently purchased M1 was doing same thing. He gave me a new clip latch and clip latch spring because he said it was usually the spring but often the latch as well. The CMP armorers replace both, not just one.
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