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Old 01-02-2019, 01:06 PM
GuapoPogi GuapoPogi is offline
 
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I picked this up at the North store 02/25/2016. I can tell that it is a 16" cut down to 10". I am confused because it is marked AFH and UFH, can someone please explain that to me. Also I cannot seem to identify the scabbard. It is marked US M7 on the metal and seems to have some cap over the tip. I have found no pictures of others marked this way or with the cap over the tip. There is a little symbol on both sides of the scabbard that resembles the symbol on a Taiwanese scabbard pictured in Bruce N Campbell's book but the other features of my scabbard are nothing like the one pictured in the book. Any help you can offer?

























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Old 01-02-2019, 01:12 PM
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AFH made the 16" in 1942

UFH did the cutdown to 10" probably in 43 or 44.
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:25 PM
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^^^ what he said...
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Old 01-02-2019, 02:42 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that. The UFH looked like it was done later so I thought it was an AFH but the CMP sold it to me as a UFH. The mistake does not mean anything to me as the manufacturer had nothing to do with my purchase decision. Does anyone have info on the scabbard or the 4 on the guard?

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Old 01-02-2019, 03:05 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that. The UFH looked like it was done later so I thought it was an AFH but the CMP sold it to me as a UFH. The mistake does not mean anything to me as the manufacturer had nothing to do with my purchase decision. Does anyone have info on the scabbard or the 4 on the guard?

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The scabbard is generally regarded as a Greek replacement and thought to be mfg in Taiwan.

see: http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayo_points_41.htm

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Old 01-02-2019, 04:25 PM
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Thanks for clarifying that. The UFH looked like it was done later so I thought it was an AFH but the CMP sold it to me as a UFH. The mistake does not mean anything to me as the manufacturer had nothing to do with my purchase decision. Does anyone have info on the scabbard or the 4 on the guard?

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The Greeks put lots of numbers on the guard. I have lots with six, seven and even 8 characters on the guards. I do not have any with a single digit.

My bet it was a Greek, and a low serial number in that arms room. Thus the only 4.
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Old 01-02-2019, 05:09 PM
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The numbers and repair to the scabbard were done by the Greeks. I have several examples as shown in this reference.
http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayo_points_41.him
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Old 01-02-2019, 05:46 PM
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Your link does not work for me, however I did spend alot of time on the page earlier. I was specifically looking for information on M7 scabbards and did not see any until I was dirrected to the CMP page there by luigi. I saw the scabbard pages and somehow missed the CMP M7 scabbard page that was listed in the index.

I also was looking over the website a couple of weeks ago when I needed info on the M5a1 bayonets. Lots of good info here. Only info I could not find was how to date M1 and M5A1 bayonets.

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Old 01-02-2019, 09:12 PM
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Try this link.
http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/bayo_points_41.htm

Nice looking bayonet....
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:29 PM
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AFH made the 16" in 1942

UFH did the cutdown to 10" probably in 43 or 44.
I have a 1909 SA cut down stamped AFH on top of handle "tang", I wonder how many companies did the cut downs?
Edit: checked the bayo points again and all 5 cut them down

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