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Old 01-11-2017, 03:08 PM
Ted Brown Ted Brown is offline
 
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Wrong... The problem is that much of the imported M80 type MG ammo is not loaded to the same specs as US made ammo in spite of the NATO designation. Some is much hotter than US M80 Ball ammo. Ammunition is often loaded for use in specific weapon systems and conditions.
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Old 01-11-2017, 03:39 PM
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I stole the following from a 2013 on-line article in the NRA Shooting magazine. It was a comparison of currently available 7.62 ammo with M80 ball. It pretty much shows any 7.62 you find should be okay with velocities similar to M80 ball.

Cartridge Designation and Origin

Muzzle Velocity
SD
Group Size
Smallest
Largest
Average
DAG/MEN 145-grain (Germany)
2,628
20
1.3
2
1.6
Prvi Partizan 145-grain (Serbia)
2,714
19
1.3
2
1.7
Wolf 145-grain steel case (Russia)
2,609
21
1
2.6
2
R1M1 146-grain (South Africa)
2,685
37
1.9
3
2.4
Armscor 147-grain (USA)
2,704
16
0.8
2.7
1.9
Magtech/CBC 147-grain (Brazil)
2,696
13
0.98
2.2
1.5
PMC 147-grain (Republic Of Korea)
2,593
12
1.8
2.8
2.3
Winchester 147-grain (USA)
2,752
15
2.2
3
2.5
Lake City 149-grain (USA)
2,738
23
1.4
2.8
2.3
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Old 01-11-2017, 06:52 PM
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Yes Ive shot M80 in my M1a...it is faster burning then Commercial ammo...Remington for example ...in 308 Winchester ( which is not the same case specs as 7.62*51 NATO). With regards to no such animal as "mg only" ammo...
Yes and no. Yes there was/is ammo specific for MG usage ( AP) to defeat light armor...there is no use for it in Civilian life... and No...the M80a1 ball can be used in all types of Civilian and Military rifles. Yes there was ap for the Garand ...but also for the 1919...so yes and no.
Wrong... The problem is that much of the imported M80 type MG ammo is not loaded to the same specs as US made ammo in spite of the NATO designation. Some is much hotter than US M80 Ball ammo. Ammunition is often loaded for use in specific weapon systems and conditions.
Mr Brown is 100% correct... the British L1A1 is one example of "Hotter Ammo" used in that rifle that was a NATO ctg.

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Old 01-11-2017, 07:38 PM
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7.62 NATO is 7.62 NATO....able to be used interchangeably between all weapons systems i.e. STANAG.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:45 PM
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M993 AP 362.6 gr (23.5 g), 2.8 in (71.1 mm), Bofors NC1290 126.6 gr Powder (8.2 g), 55,115 psi (3,875 kg/cm²) 2,985 fps (910 mps) Specific for SAW.
I think the point is there are variances to some NATO spec ammo. 7.62 NATO was developed as a common ammo...but there are a lots of bullet weights and Velocities....but I digress and withdraw my O-Pine. M80 should be fine.
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Old 01-11-2017, 08:43 PM
Jeremy2171 Jeremy2171 is offline
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardhuge View Post
M993 AP 362.6 gr (23.5 g), 2.8 in (71.1 mm), Bofors NC1290 126.6 gr Powder (8.2 g), 55,115 psi (3,875 kg/cm²) 2,985 fps (910 mps) Specific for SAW.
M993 is 7.62
M995 is 5.56 and safe for all 5.56 weapons.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:45 PM
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The can in question is of linked 7.62 and was made in S. Korea. My 308 is a Sako Forestor rifle. I might just use commercial 308 to be safe. Good input from all.
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:14 AM
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Good to go. Same same. GI #1.
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