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Old 09-29-2019, 07:10 PM
brianm767 brianm767 is offline
 
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Default Need to add a carbine to my collection questions

I've never owned a carbine, thinking of trading a Garand towards one or flipping one to buy the carbine.

Looking for something equivalent to a field or service grade.

Can I get a GI one for $800-900?

I know nothing about them as far as manufactures numbers produced.

What should I expect or look for

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Old 09-29-2019, 07:24 PM
T38Carbine T38Carbine is offline
 
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Like all milsurp purchases...it pays to do your homework. Get a book and study. You should probably be able to get one in the price range you mentioned...but if you add a few hundred you’ll probably find something in better condition. Good luck!!
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:27 PM
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You are on the Left coast and they run a little higher there if you buy local. GB, yes, you can get one for $900 including shipping and FFL fee. However some people will not sell to California. So check that out first.
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Old 09-29-2019, 07:28 PM
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in my opinion that is the lower end of what a real nice one would cost. Think $1000 and up a bit for a real nice one that would be excellent for shooting. Most of what you will find in that price range will be rebuilt so generally quantity produced does not mean a great deal unless its a more difficult one to find like Rock Ola or Irwin Pederson, or maybe Winchester as a lot of people collect Winchester rifles.

Educate yourself on these little rifles before you buy so you dont make a mistake. In terms of resale value I would shy away from Import marked ones. Take your time and dont rush and you will probably find what you wish.

There is a big difference in value between collectable originals and ones that have been rebuilt but rebuilt ones in excellent condition can shoot very well. All of this is my opinion of course.

I see you live in California, I know they have some different laws and I am aware that there is a restriction on magazine size. Make sure you know the laws as applies to where you live.
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Old 09-29-2019, 08:01 PM
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Yes, read books first, but read the right books. One of my favorite quotes

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Old 09-29-2019, 08:36 PM
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some great advice/info in the link below.

http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/forum/...topic1301.html
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Old 09-29-2019, 11:09 PM
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Yes I am very aware of California gun laws and mag restrictions. Most likely I will not purchase the firearm in California, as mentioned prices do run much higher here, I would probably purchase it off GunBroker or on one of the forms I'm a member of. I also understand in the price range I'm looking at or maybe up to $1,000 I'm looking at a Mixmaster just like my CMP garandsabd that's just fine with me, in fact I wouldn't mind having a CMP one. It would be nice to get one with original barrel and a GI stock. Good thought about trying to avoid import marks, but if the price is appreciate with one I'd consider it.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:26 AM
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Good luck on your hunt. Carbines were imported before the GCA of 1968 that required an importers stamp. There can be absolutely no difference in condition between a pre-1968 imported carbine and a post-1968 imported carbine....except for the dreaded mark. It's a head-thing for a collector. You can get a carbine that sux or a very good one regardless of an import mark. Look to get a discount if it's marked, but it depends on the maker and condition. It will have the same internals and function just as well as one not marked. You very well can get a marked gun that is in better condition than one that isn't.

Getting a gun sold and shipped into California can be a real PITA no matter where it comes from. The last time I sold one there, the poor guy like to have never got his gun. The dealers are extremely snobbish and demanding of things that Federal law does not restrict. Sellers outside of California just don't want to fool with it.
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Old 09-30-2019, 11:45 AM
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Getting a gun sold and shipped into California can be a real PITA no matter where it comes from. The last time I sold one there, the poor guy like to have never got his gun. The dealers are extremely snobbish and demanding of things that Federal law does not restrict. Sellers outside of California just don't want to fool with it.
Yes I deal with it all the time, and the unfortunate thing is Im the Fresno/Clovis area which is in the central part of the sate. So the best FFL I have to use around here charges me $45 per each firearm + the states $25 fee plus state sales tax which he is now required to collect.

Hes great to deal with except he will not accept from a private individual, he says the law requires it to come from a FFL which is not correct, but its his business.

I have helped educate a few dealers on GB who wouldn't sell to Ca because they didn't know the laws, I sent them an assault weapons flow chart off calguns.net and they then started dealing with this 3rd world nation.

Mags I have sent to my daughters house in Utah then I can block them to 10 rounds then bring them into Cali on my next visit. But I do have hundreds of mags of numerous manufactures of firearms, many that i dont even have the gun for, But I bought them prior to the year 2000 and during this years one week open window and now they are grandfathered in. ( as long as the court stay stays in place on the recent ban) I see some FFL's on GB charge an extra $25 for sales to Ca for the extra work, the only extra work is they have to register to sell to CA, a quick online form, once that is done they have to include that number with their shipments. So not only does the state stick us, so do some dealers.

Of course I would never do anything illegal, but in reality there is no way for the state to know if ones mags were purchased prior to 2000 or during this years one week open window or at a later date.

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