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Old 11-24-2020, 04:25 PM
mrrm mrrm is offline
 
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Default Question on Early Commercial Carbines, IJ, Plainfield , Universal etc..

I've noticed recently a couple of threads discussing commercial M1 Carbines. While sitting around today following a medical "procedure", I'm under "house arrest" for a couple days, I dug out an old 1981 Shotgun News, always fun to look back. There were multiple advertisers offering Universal, Iver Johnson and Plainfield M1 Carbines. When I was in high school in the early 80's I wanted one of these in the worst way but it never happened. I did convince my mom to buy me a Marlin Model 60 .22 which I shot the heck out of. Returned from FT. Benning in the fall of 1986 and for the first time my LGS had a couple racks of the import stamped M1 Carbines, bought a heavily re-parked STD PRO in a beat up M2 stock, loved it and shot the heck out of that one before selling it years later to upgrade to a much nicer UEF.

Okay enough of that, my question since I never ended up buying any of those early commercial carbines, of the IJ, Universal, Plainfield and Alpine, which were considered the better of these?
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Old 11-24-2020, 04:34 PM
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In the early 80’s I purchased an Iver Johnson M1 carbine. Functioned fine and I only recently sold it to my brother since I have acquired USGI examples!!
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Old 11-24-2020, 04:38 PM
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I have shot all of those and the Plainfield would get my vote. But none of them should be shot until checked out for OBF.
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Old 11-24-2020, 07:30 PM
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I would give a slight advantage to an early generation 1 Universal only because they used forged steel receivers. When I say early, I mean below SN: 15,000.
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Old 11-25-2020, 06:37 AM
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Can't answer which is better, but I have a 1960's Plainfield that gladly accepts USGI parts, is actually very accurate and runs like a Swiss watch with any ammo. AAA highly figured wood too (for some reason...maybe an early one). If you can get past the metal handguard, they're pretty cool.

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Old 11-25-2020, 09:05 AM
B-3-6 B-3-6 is offline
 
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Default Thumbs up for Plainfield M1 carbines

I have owned four Plainfields and still have two. All have functioned great. My first one had the handguard and stock replaced with USGI wood. Get one and bang away.
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Old 11-26-2020, 01:02 AM
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I have a Plainfield Paratrooper model. Never misses a beat. I put it in a GI stock for comfort, but the paratrooper stock is cool when I'm in the mood. I also have an Inland, which also never misses a beat.

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Old 11-26-2020, 08:25 AM
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I loved my Alpine and regret selling it. It out shot any of the USGI carbines I've had. I may just look for another once the panic buying subsides.

Bill
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Old 11-26-2020, 08:42 AM
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The single-most thing that ever turned me against commercial carbines was the method of gas-block attachment. When I first started my interest in carbines, I begin to read about gas-blocks being dislodged and you can still find reports of it’s continuance to this day. Cast receivers made to USGI specifications are likely never going to give the average shooter a problem in their lifetime. Cast receivers in current production carbines have shown to be problematic, but the early guns not so much and all that I know about were GI part compatible. I shy-away from any of the commercial manufactures that continued to produce carbines into the mid-80’s. They were struggling to stay alive and turned out plenty of junk before the end came. When evaluating a commercial carbine, consideration has to be given to the day it was born. An early Iver Johnson might be a very good carbine, but you are just taking a chance on an Iver Johnson manufactured in the latter days with IJ, Plainfield and Universal left-over components which were not always compatible.
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Old 11-26-2020, 03:57 PM
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I would give a slight advantage to an early generation 1 Universal only because they used forged steel receivers. When I say early, I mean below SN: 15,000.
Pair it with a good USGI barrel and it's GTG.
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