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Old 01-19-2017, 05:54 PM
gunny gunny is offline
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Several tutorials on YouTube. Start here:

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Old 01-19-2017, 08:04 PM
Rootsy Rootsy is offline
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Then find a local match or clinic. We are friendly and welcome those interested in learning and participating. Dick Whiting is a real gem for your state and the entire HP community as a whole.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:27 AM
GuapoPogi GuapoPogi is offline
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Originally Posted by Bubblehead751 View Post
I'm a middle aged man and new shooter. I am interested in learning to shoot better with the factory irons. I'm on paper but all over at 50 yards so you can imagine what 100 is like. I can't be alone in this and can't find anything geared to this nitch.

Does CMP offer any programs like this where we could fellowship and learn from some more f the WWII and Korea guys before they are all gone? I think it would be a great way to show our respect for them and allow them to share their knowledge with folks like me.

The Small Arms Firing School done by The CMP teaches the basics.
It includes saftey, proper aiming with iron sights, and how shoot in a competition among other beginner topics.

The class is held at Camp Perry in Ohio. This year's pistol class is July 01st and this year's rifle class is July 15-16.

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Old 01-20-2017, 08:54 PM
SBuzek SBuzek is offline
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Location: Waller TX
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I really suggest finding a local group to shoot with. I did the same about 2 years ago and like you not a real competitive person but these guys taught me so much and the fun of competing just with myself keeps me going every month.
And just to add started out shooting about 280 to start and now shoot in the low 400s.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:28 AM
britrifles britrifles is offline
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I believe Appleseed is an exceptional program for teaching new shooters. Once you qualify on the 25 yard reduced targets, you can shoot the known distance events, typically at 100, 200, 300 and 400 yards. They also run the KD clinic at Talladega using the 600 yard range. Even those with experience can learn from this program.

Check out their website. Find a buddy and sign up. You won't regret it.
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:55 PM
xringshutr xringshutr is offline
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I wholeheartedly recommend you take part in local matches. Anything you an get to. Dick Whiting is or was active at White Horse range in WV. He frequently posts on the nationalmatch.us forum. Great forum for HP shooters. You'll learn a ton by reading threads on that site too. Beat of luck!

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Old 02-02-2017, 01:37 AM
Ohio Don Ohio Don is offline
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Originally Posted by xringshutr View Post
I wholeheartedly recommend you take part in local matches. Anything you an get to. Dick Whiting is or was active at White Horse range in WV. He frequently posts on the nationalmatch.us forum. Great forum for HP shooters. You'll learn a ton by reading threads on that site too. Beat of luck!

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Shame that that range is a 2 hour drive from home. Buckhannon is right on Corridor H if WV ever gets it done and would be right on the way from Lorton, VA to home. Or a trip to Cass, WV.
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Old 02-02-2017, 09:37 AM
Bubblehead751 Bubblehead751 is offline
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Not sure who recommended the YouTube videos, but they were helpful. Also found many others.

Just need to learn to use the rear ladder sight. I really like the peep and put me last five rounds in a group the size of a CD at 100 yards with my 1903. I'll take that considering it was my first time with any rifle at that range.

Think I'll try the open sight aperture on the leaf next time.
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Old 02-14-2017, 07:48 PM
carlos.a.franco carlos.a.franco is offline
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I attended and Appleseed event for the first time 2 weeks ago, my kids were the ones registered and we really enjoyed it. I recommended for anybody who wants to sharpen their shooting skills . Thank you TheJoker

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Old 02-16-2017, 10:17 AM
TheJoker TheJoker is offline
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Since we are talking about training, I though I'd tell a related story about an awesome experience that I had over the weekend. To many of you, this stuff is 'old hat'; but, I believe some folks like me who are just starting down the path will find it interesting.

I had never shot much beyond 100 yards before this weekend. I have had several basic rifle courses with both Project Appleseed and Revere's Riders. I learned the basics of IMC(...Inches to Minutes to Clicks) but never really applied it at Field Rifle distances.

Last weekend, I participated in a Revere's Riders Field Rifle Course on one of the Known Distance fields at Camp Atterbury. I had been sorting out my equipment and practicing getting my 100 yard zero for several weeks. My goals were realistic. I was going to be happy if I could get half of my rounds on paper and not be "that guy". Read the article in the most recent GCA Journal "How to not goof up at Camp Perry" to understand what I meant by not being "that guy".

In my practice, I decided that because of my poor eyes, I would shoot the course with the M1D with repro mount and M82 that I purchased last Fall at the South Store.

The two day course started on Saturday morning at 25 yards with drills on getting you 25 yard zero and an exercise designed to teach how many clicks per MOA were your sight adjustments. We then proceeded to 100 yards, fired 3 sighters and started documenting the DOPE that every rifleman needs on their individual rifles. After documenting the sighters and making adjustments, we fired 2 and 8 rounds from the off hand position.

We policed our brass, grabbed out gear and walked back to 200 yards. We repeated the process of 3 sighters, document, adjust if necessary and fired 2 and 8 rounds from the sitting position.

Again policed our brass, walked back to 300 and repeated he process, sighters, document, adjust if necessary and fired 2 and 8 from the prone position.

Repeating the process at 400 yards, sighters, document, adjust and fire 2 and 8 from prone.

Now, 500 yards was not in the course for fire; but, we still walked back there and fired sighters and logged that dope. We broke for lunch at the 500 yard line.

After lunch while we were at 500 yards, the fellas in the pits had placed an 8 1/2 by 11 piece of construction paper near the bottom of the target. We all got to fire one shot, cold bore at the tiny speck. Believe it or not, 4 of 22 folks hit the mark. This drill is called Morgan's Shingle. The fellas that made hits were given a patch and a certificate as official members of "Morgan's Riflemen". If you aren't familiar with the story of Morgan's Sharpshooters, look it up!

After that, we proceeded forward to 400 and repeated the process in reverse back down the range to 100 yards.

The second day, we shot the same drill but added a time element and for the sitting and prone added transition from standing. Also, they limited the sighters to three at the beginning of each string of 40 rounds. If someone was really off as happened with me once, the fellas in the pits would radio one of the instructors info like 'all shots 4 MOA high'. I had doubled one of my adjustments; but, once I made the correction, that old rifle was right on the money again. We got in 4 strings of 40 the second day and boy was I sore the next day.

As I said this was my first experience shooting at these distances. I watched in amazement as that old M1D of mine stayed on the mark, using standard come ups for a M1. Most of the fellas shooting around were shooting ARs and using ballistic calculators. Oh...and the second half of the second day, we had a gusting, 30mph cross wind, talk about hold over training!

The Revere's Riders instructors ran a very safe range and gave a lot of individual instruction/coaching.

I was tickled to death that not only did I get all 300 or so of my shots on the paper; but, I put at least half of them in the black. AND my worst "that guy" offense was losing my chamber flag once while hiking between 100 yard lines. The guy next to me shot someone else's target a couple of time.

So if any of you are like me and want to get your feet wet at KD shooting in a relaxed non-competition atmosphere, a Revere's Riders or Project Appleseed Field Rifle event is a great second step. I can't tell you how much I learned and how much it built my confidence. I now have a book full of dope on my favorite rifle.

I plan to spend the summer practicing my transitions to sitting/prone, working on finding my NPOA and looking forward to the next Revere's Riders Field Rifle event in October.

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