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Old 07-08-2015, 08:06 AM
Jim In Va Jim In Va is offline
 
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Default 1917 Import Markings Locations?

I will. Be looking at a 1917 in a day or two located at a LGS. I have looked at it once before but did not see any import marks. Where is the location where they are most likely found?
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:20 AM
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barrel, towards the muzzle, some are very light
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:19 AM
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As chuck said. I would add that they are often found running parallel to the axis of the barrel and usuall somewhere on the side and under the front site.
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Old 07-08-2015, 11:56 AM
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If they'll let you, check under the handguards too. I once bought a "non-import marked" Pattern 14 Enfield rifle (nearly identical to the 1917 except chambered in .303) and when I stripped it down I found a CAI import mark on top of the barrel, underneath the rear handguard. Not a happy day.
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Old 07-08-2015, 08:00 PM
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Isn't the location determined by:
- The date imported (they used to be on the barrels, now required to be on the receivers)
- The importer ("on the barrel" meant anything, and some importers tried to make it easy to see, others tried to hide them), same for receiver markings, some are billboards on the top, others hide them under the bolt handle.

Most of my collection is bolt action, all are import marked except my CMP acquisitions and even from Century Arms my Mosin Nagants exhibit little consistency.

So, were it me (and I don't care about the marks, but I do care that they disclose them, and let me inspect the purchase thoroughly...), examine the entire barrel and receiver. I have never seen one under the stock (but have heard of them under handguards as said above), but that would not stop me from looking!

JH
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:24 PM
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I've always noticed the import stamps near the muzzle on the right side of the barrel parallel to the horizontal plane of the barrel. Blue Sky stampings will stand out like roadside advertising board; cia will be less obvious.
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Old 07-08-2015, 09:58 PM
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Isn't the location determined by:
- The date imported (they used to be on the barrels, now required to be on the receivers)

JH
I'll clear this up. The import mark does not need to be on the receiver, but if the receiver is not serial numbered (aka Mosins, about 1/5 of all German K98's) then the importer must add a serial number to the receiver. Others do their whole entire marking on the receiver, like CAI, others are much more discreet, putting only a small serial on the receiver and the rest of the mark hidden on the barrel.
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Old 07-09-2015, 12:10 PM
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Mine was on the front of the barrel by CDI

Very nicely done, neat and clear, it also is part of the provenance as with the other features tracks with a Danish return.

Not all do of course but in this case all the elements are there.

Add to the lore, it has the model as a P1917.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:05 PM
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I've always noticed the import stamps near the muzzle on the right side of the barrel parallel to the horizontal plane of the barrel. Blue Sky stampings will stand out like roadside advertising board; cia will be less obvious.
That's where mine were, VERY light CAI markings.
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Old 07-11-2015, 07:08 PM
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Default 1917 Import Markings

I went to look at the 1917 yesterday. It did have a CAI import stamp. It was on the underside of the barrel near the front sight. Very light stamping. We could not agree on the price. It has been on the rack for a while now. I will check back with the shop net time I am out that way. Thanks everyone for the info.
Jim
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