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Old 08-07-2018, 06:18 PM
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Removed 12 cleaning rod sections from the butt trap and weighed my SA M1A. Birch stock, as issued with charger guide it is 8 lbs 14 oz. I can keep it under 10 lbs with a scope. It isn't as easy as scoping a M4 and certainly one would (again) wonder how much thought and effort went into the CMP rule book. Firing at 100-200yds on SR targets, I have began to wonder if the scopes are really worth much over open sights. Another problem: the M14 was not made for a scope. Like the Garand snipers, the stock is too low and the head position during firing is uncomfortable. I will try one eventually, but doubt it will ever be my first choice for MM. Good Shooting. ...
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:29 PM
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Phil, I have shot the scoped m14 and it was horrible because the cheekweld becomes a "chinweld". Hated it. Love shooting them with irons though.
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:47 PM
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I know that M is really a L. I feel the same way. Good Shooting. ....
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Old 08-07-2018, 06:52 PM
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I know that M is really a L. I feel the same way. Good Shooting. ....
Fixed it..thanks!

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Old 08-07-2018, 07:44 PM
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certainly one would (again) wonder how much thought and effort went into the CMP rule book.
I think we both have a strong suspicion regarding that matter.
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:21 AM
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Phil, I have shot the scoped m14 and it was horrible because the cheekweld becomes a "chinweld". Hated it. Love shooting them with irons though.
Sadly I have the same experience. Every solution (other than replacing stock) with strap on cheek risers is at best miserable. Chin Weld...if you think it bad , try it at 800 and 1000 yds !!

The M14/M1A like my FN FAl...not intended for sniper use , use with scopes.
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:15 AM
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Great videos , thanks.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:12 AM
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At this point I am not sure if all rifles need to be checked and taped at CMP trailer.
I always do.
I thought this was a safety requirement.
I did see a couple rifles in MM that had no tape on the trigger.
What I find laughable is I had to change my M1A std rifles hooded rear sight and front NM to compete against scopes.Not sure if this is still enforced.
I was glad to see that the scorecard had a place for unlimited this year.
I donít think it was there last year.
Very good points.

As I understand it all rifles need to be weighed/inspected prior to the Board Matches and Games are optional (except for Gold). Now at the Eastern Games, all rifles need to be weighed before both the Matches and Games. I'm guessing that the CMP guys would be overwhelmed if every Perry competitor showed with 3 to 6 guns.

Regarding a safety inspection, it must be limited. I really don't see much going on from a safety check standpoint. Occasionally, I see them flip the AR safety selector. Am I missing something?
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:37 AM
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Very good points.

As I understand it all rifles need to be weighed/inspected prior to the Board Matches and Games are optional (except for Gold). Now at the Eastern Games, all rifles need to be weighed before both the Matches and Games. I'm guessing that the CMP guys would be overwhelmed if every Perry competitor showed with 3 to 6 guns.

Regarding a safety inspection, it must be limited. I really don't see much going on from a safety check standpoint. Occasionally, I see them flip the AR safety selector. Am I missing something?
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With few exceptions...I've never seen "inspections" being more than a quick eye-ball by the inspector. Seems my triggers are always weighed.

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Old 08-09-2018, 06:57 AM
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My MM inspection this year seemed to be as comprehensive as needed in the short period he had it:

No floating barrel - passed
General configuration - passed
Questioned configuration of the front sling mount - passed
Checked scope - passed
Trigger reset - passed
Trigger weight - failed (Rock River fixed it for me while I waited)

I was disappointed that they did not weigh it however.

That they only required the MM and Snipers to be checked surprised me.
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