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Mailed 11-7-19, CMP probably would have received it 11-11-19 but that was Veterans Day so they got it Tues. CC charged 11-15 (Fri), shipped 11-19(Tues) and I got it today.
I had stickered asking for USGI stock, mention how I wouldn’t mind dings, rack numbers or names in stock bring the history alive. Lo and behold a gold rack number (and plenty of dings). Not sure if U.S. GI though as I can’t find any cartouche or markings. But maybe they’re hidden under all the years of dark wood (any idea as to type of wood?). Anyway, gold rack numbers denote USMC (hey, don’t argue with me on that. 21 year in the Corps and rack numbers were always Gold). So if I want these to be USMC rack numbers that’s what they are. (Actually if anyone knows type of wood, anything about the rack numbers or clues about the stock I’d love to hear from you). SA receiver with 3.411 million serial I think put it around Dec 44 to Jan 45. SA barrel marked 12-48. ME 2+ TE 3+ (better than my Service Grade which was 2+ 4+) NO PITTING on receiver. SA Oprod, IHC bolt, HRA trigger housing and hammer. Strange paper glued to inside of trigger housing plate. Top line starts YÜ then can’t make out the rest. Bottom line is RÜZGA and looks like should be one last letter. The Ü is that Danish, Swedish, did we give some to the Germans? Anyway, any ideas on that or anything else I’d love to hear from you. Oh, and the two little nail holes at bottom of the grip. To hold a butt cap or something there you think? Would cleaning help to bring out any hidden cartouches? Of course I want to be careful not to destroy the gold rack number, otherwise I’d lose the ability to prove it’s USMC heritage. One last thought, the price tag on the back of the hang tag. Is that normal? I like to think someone pulled the rifle off the rack since I asked for rack number. And it’s dated 9-5-19 so hadn’t been selling. https://imgur.com/gallery/CdvnZug Last edited by Big_Red; 11-21-2019 at 03:40 AM. Reason: Fixed picture gallery link |
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I must have got pulled of one of the Stores inventory, nice looking Field Grade
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Nice rifle, way better than my last one! I will also add I have never seen a rack number in that location.
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The Turks use Ü characters as well and those words you mentioned are not Germanic. I am sure it is a Turk return.
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I don't think it's fair to say that the stock has plenty of dings. That USGI stock is easily in the top 10-15 percent in terms of quality among Field Grades. The overall condition and barrel puts the rifle itself squarely in the Service Grade spectrum.
It's got a few dings but nothing that's overly distracting or off-putting. I've not seen a rack number in that location, ever. Maybe others can chime in if they've seen this? Beautiful Field Grade. Congrats. |
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Wow! SG at a FG price! Wow! Get some ammo and head for the range! Sincerely. bruce.
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Nice looking FG. It is about the same condition as the ones I got a month ago. Just for fun or I typed RÜZGA in google translate and RÜZGAR popped up as Turkish for "wind". Don't know about others but I love finding such things in the surplus guns I pick up. Congratulations!
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Very happy with it. Quote:
As I said I think this field grade is better than my Service (except the service came with beautiful new CMP stock which fits lot tighter) I had decided that, like you, I would post it no matter the condition. Quote:
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Beautiful stock with character, exactly what I was hoping for, except a cartouche or two would have been nice. Such a nice stock I’m torn between leaving it alone and trying some light cleaning to try and bring out some cartouches. I suppose it’s possible any US type cartouches may have been sanded off during the several antiAmerican periods in Turkish history. Or maybe just by an individual soldier with those feelings. Quote:
Along those lines can anyone recommend a good YouTube video on how to check for serviceability before firing? I know fewer and fewer gunsmiths are knowledgeable on M1’s so owners-have to be a lot more knowledgeable than the soldiers as we can’t just turn it into the armory for repairs Quote:
So you’re telling me the Gold Rack number indicates Turkish Marines. Or the “wind” means Turkish CIA (reference for the M.A.S.H. CIA character “like the wind”) It’d be nice to find YÜxxxxx means sacred or divine, like Kamikazi or something Thanks for taking the time for the google search. Like you I also hope to find some little individual thing that shows a little more the individuality of the rifle or a previous user. My service grade had 104 in white paint inside the trigger housing on the flat plate. See https://imgur.com/gallery/CdvnZug Last edited by Big_Red; 11-21-2019 at 10:03 PM. Reason: Combine consecutive posts |
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I think the two little nail holes in the grip were to secure a brass tag with a rack number.
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Was wondering if anyone knew if they were common on the Turkish returns and so possibly an indicator of Turkish origin if no other clues. |
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