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Old 06-13-2018, 06:04 PM
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Default Which book is the most accurate On the Parts.

I have 3 books War babies, 7th edition of Craig Riesch book, and I just got the M1 CARBINE 3rd by R.C.Larson.
in Larson book he states that most carbine would have had the type 1 Barrel band.only late lnland and Winchester will have type III band. the other books break it down two different serial number. So out of the 3 books I own do I just take pieces and bits out of each book or which one is the true Bible.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:18 PM
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As a rough check, Riesch 7th ed. Do not use Riesch to correct or restore by it's self. You can take an original and turn it into a poor restoration using only Riesch.
Then to follow up Carbine Club News Letters, and COMs.
History class "War Baby"
Use Larson's book as filler on the bottom of bird cages.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:03 PM
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Yeah I'm starting to think that about Larson book. I have a Quality Hardware serial number 478859* with a type 2 Barrel band with KI marked. The color matches most of the rifle I do not see the front sight being taken off it looks original to the rifle.
So would that be the correct barrel band
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:19 PM
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Could be. I assume it is not a cut down type 3 band. Most of the prime manufacturers used a few type 2 bands mixed in their last month of production. Since the usage of type 2 bands was limited with little or no documentation, The book authors could not say with 100% accuracy they were used, so they chose to leave them out.
An error by omission. For example, Riesch only lists a few transferred parts, you have to go to "War Baby" for them and check the COMs.
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Old 06-13-2018, 07:55 PM
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Yes it's definitely not a cut down type 3 Like I say the color matches perfectly.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:07 PM
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As a rough check, Riesch 7th ed. Do not use Riesch to correct or restore by it's self. You can take an original and turn it into a poor restoration using only Riesch.
Then to follow up Carbine Club News Letters, and COMs.
History class "War Baby"
Use Larson's book as filler on the bottom of bird cages.
Agree 100% with 6 Ring, Just did a quick search through my CCNL's for COM's close to your serial #. Found that 4713xxx and 4783408 both had type 1's and serial #'s 4842332 and 4824xxx both had unmarked type 2's.
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:48 AM
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well I am pretty bummed out after further looking at the front ban I've noticed some saw marks the SOB sawed-off the bayonet lug. Now I wasn't looking to correctly rebuild this rifle I just wanted to see where it was at. Now I will be looking for a Type 3 band to be put it on the carbine . I have never been a big fan of restoring these history weapons.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:12 AM
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not all T3 bands were cut down to fool others to think they were T2s. States like NY and such have a ban on the evil bayonet lug so if you have a carbine in those commie states you would either have to go to a T1 or cut down the T3.
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:22 AM
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I would suggest you leave it as it is. Pulling the front sight can scratch the front of the barrel and another band will not match finish and wear.
It is possible to find a type 3 band close to the existing finish but you will have to have ten or so used bands to sort through looking for a finish match.
But if you do want to change it out, I will try to help. I think, I even have a real type 2 KI band but it is quite pricey.
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Old 06-30-2018, 11:03 AM
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Question Type 2 Band

Why would you put a KI type two band on it? If the other KI band was cut down then it was a post-war replacement and not a QHMC part.
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