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Old 08-06-2022, 06:19 PM
218bee 218bee is offline
 
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Default Bill Adair restored 1911 value question

Not for sale at this time. Just want opinions on value. Have had this for many years, and Bill restored it back in 2006 I beleive. It was an all-original 1913 manufactured pistol, 5-digit serial#, that had a few minor issues (needed a front sight, other small stuff I can't remember now) Anyway, I wanted him to replace the front sight & restore the finish. He didnt disappoint. Even duplicated the original Colt sanding patterns on the grip/frame section. So, if possible, I'd appreciate any advice as to what the current value on this would be. I shot maybe a box of 50 rounds through it, to function check it.

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Old 08-06-2022, 06:21 PM
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Old 08-06-2022, 08:09 PM
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$1,500? Just a SWAG. Others here know more. Value could be more or less. It's done now, but if there were "minor issues" I personally wouldn't have done the full resto, even though it looks to be very well executed.
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Old 08-06-2022, 10:56 PM
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I don't know the value. With release of CMP 1911, I think restored 1911 probably lost a bit of luster comparing to the old days. I personally would rather get CMP 1911 came straight out of Army Depot before consider restored pistols. But there are followers of restored 1911 from some with deep pocket, especially for a early year 1911.
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Old 08-07-2022, 06:45 AM
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Default Colt m1911 s/n 624xx

Mr. Stangarone
First off thank you for your Service as a firefighter
You have been on the forum for some time so I wanted to give you my best assment,
So letís start with what we know
Posted Colt pistol was sent out February 4th 1914 in a batch of 500 pistols s/n 62,201 thru 62,700 to New York Arsenal Governorís Island N.Y. Per Clawson big book page 381
We can tell pistol has all original parts down to the very rare Barrel. Most were used up because of the corrosive primers in that era of ammunition.

Price comparisons

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/941114040

Original finish but has a WW1 Springfield barrel
Made 8 months after yours

Watch this one sell yours would be worth 2/3 of its price on the low side top dollar 3/4 of its sale price

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/940208901

Heavy buffing no original magazine unknown barrel
If this one sells yours maybe worth 500. More this should reflect to you the value after refinishing these pistols once you loose the original Pre WW1 deep Royal Bluing itís value as a collector/ investment pistol drops sharply.
I used to be on FB and there is some good advice there I just canít take the FB crap but there is niche collectors who actively search for pre war 1911ís however they are extremely particular on finish being original
If not in a pre covid letís go Brandon environment your pistol would bring 1/2 the value due to being refinished.
When you go from a actual shooter to a collector the window of owners/ investors shrinks very rapidly in the 2 days since you posted this I have been researching it out for you and I could only fine less than 5 pistols in complete condition with nicer end re-finishes


Reselling time your best bet is to find that investor who is not skilled on the area / Time your pistol was made and is willing to pay for a refinished pistol, On a positive note they are not making 1913/1914 anymore so in time itís value should increase

My last comment and value assessment would be on the low side $ 2,000 up to $ 3,000
Compared to if it was a Original finish $4,000 up to $6,000
When you look at these values most of us working guys would have to save a year or more for these priced pistols so the guys who actively buy and collect these models have pretty strict rules on them selves for purchasing
Itís a extremely pretty pistol and with the fact that you donít see many 1911ís anymore that makes it a enjoyment to see
I hope this helps you
Jeff.
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Old 08-08-2022, 01:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Apprentice View Post
Mr. Stangarone
First off thank you for your Service as a firefighter
You have been on the forum for some time so I wanted to give you my best assment,
So letís start with what we know
Posted Colt pistol was sent out February 4th 1914 in a batch of 500 pistols s/n 62,201 thru 62,700 to New York Arsenal Governorís Island N.Y. Per Clawson big book page 381
We can tell pistol has all original parts down to the very rare Barrel. Most were used up because of the corrosive primers in that era of ammunition.

Price comparisons

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/941114040



Original finish but has a WW1 Springfield barrel
Made 8 months after yours

Watch this one sell yours would be worth 2/3 of its price on the low side top dollar 3/4 of its sale price






https://www.gunbroker.com/item/940208901

Heavy buffing no original magazine unknown barrel
If this one sells yours maybe worth 500. More this should reflect to you the value after refinishing these pistols once you loose the original Pre WW1 deep Royal Bluing itís value as a collector/ investment pistol drops sharply.
I used to be on FB and there is some good advice there I just canít take the FB crap but there is niche collectors who actively search for pre war 1911ís however they are extremely particular on finish being original
If not in a pre covid letís go Brandon environment your pistol would bring 1/2 the value due to being refinished.
When you go from a actual shooter to a collector the window of owners/ investors shrinks very rapidly in the 2 days since you posted this I have been researching it out for you and I could only fine less than 5 pistols in complete condition with nicer end re-finishes


Reselling time your best bet is to find that investor who is not skilled on the area / Time your pistol was made and is willing to pay for a refinished pistol, On a positive note they are not making 1913/1914 anymore so in time itís value should increase

My last comment and value assessment would be on the low side $ 2,000 up to $ 3,000
Compared to if it was a Original finish $4,000 up to $6,000
When you look at these values most of us working guys would have to save a year or more for these priced pistols so the guys who actively buy and collect these models have pretty strict rules on them selves for purchasing
Itís a extremely pretty pistol and with the fact that you donít see many 1911ís anymore that makes it a enjoyment to see
I hope this helps you
Jeff.
Let me understand this. Are original finished 1911ís (40% left) and all original parts, as far as I can tell, worth $4,000 and up.
Wish I could post pics here but this forum doesnít seem to like iPad users.
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:05 PM
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Default Prewar bring a premium

Mr. Kennard
Prewar 1911ís bring these premiums this is definitely not the case with the ďBlack ArmyĒ generation of pistols
Send me a email
Mustang seventy Lee @ Gmail com
Use the number

And some pictures and I can research yours for you
Maybe start a thread for you


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Let me understand this. Are original finished 1911ís (40% left) and all original parts, as far as I can tell, worth $4,000 and up.
Wish I could post pics here but this forum doesnít seem to like iPad users.
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Old 08-08-2022, 07:56 PM
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Thanks Mr. Lee and all who chimed in here. I appreciate your time with this.
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Old 08-08-2022, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
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Thanks Mr. Lee and all who chimed in here. I appreciate your time with this.
Your welcome Mr. Stangarone
I have nothing that old or early if your Colt custodian 😊
1915 & 1916 Springfieldís
1917 Colt Frame with a AJ Savage or Springfield stamped slide 😉
1918 colt black Army
And my last 1911 a Remington Umc that required me to give up 1911a1ís Colts with Only 21,676 made they are just so darn rare

No :
the original 1911ís pre 1924 are so far & few in between every year is see less & less of them


Take good care of yours think about these men making these pistols 109 years ago.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/193435...posted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/193435...posted-public/
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Old 08-09-2022, 09:19 PM
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Adair did awesome work, but I have to agree with ‘apprentice’. Maybe Scott Gahimer will chime in.
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